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    LitD
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    Originally posted by sam1976 View Post
    everything looks to be in order. your test levels are a little on the low side. i beleive 300-1200 in about the normal range, so you are just over that. how old are you? i would expect that running a couple cc's of test a wk will have a pretty strong impact on you!
    Im 37 220lbs ,
    My diet is good, intake is from 230 to 320g protein a day (95% from food). My cycle will only be 500mg week.
    Thanks for looking at my lab.
    LitD
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    Last edited by LitD; 11-13-2011, 11:44 PM.

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  • CFINCH007
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    Thanks SAM,
    I am 5'9" and I gained about 20lbs and I lost it probably 3 or 4 months after last pin. Nothing in my diet or routine has really changed. I did take my first cycle way too early and kinda went into it blindly, this time I am trying to get as much as I can off this cycle. I know the Test seems kinda low but I am in the military so i cant gain 30lbs overnight..lol

    As for the clomid, 100mg 3 weeks after last pin and then 50mgs a week???

    You are awesome SAM, thanks for taking the time to help me out.

    Also, Since I am in the military I have to run a lot, last time I shot in my glutes and running was awful, is there a site you might suggest i change to?

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  • sam1976
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    let me ask you this. how much did you gain off your first cycle and how long did it take before you went back down to 165. also, how tall are you?

    i would start PCT 3 wks after last inject of that super test, taking 100mg clomid the first day and then 50mg for 3 wks.

    also, the adex is too high. i would only take that much while dieting down for a contest. if you wipe your estrogen out, which that dose will do on 400mg test, you wont gain much. unless you were suffering gyno, i would not take more than .5mg EOD. i would actually suggest starting at .25mg EOD. since you are running a product with 80mg prop, you might want to split your injection schedule into EOD. therefore .5cc EOD of test


    Originally posted by CFINCH007 View Post
    Hey Sam, let me know if you can give me some advice. Doing my second cycle and I want to keep as much of my gains as possible. Here is what I will be doing:

    200mg of Super Test (Test E @ 20MG, Test D @ 100MG, Test P @80MG) twice a week for 10 weeks
    150mg of DECA twice a week for 10 weeks
    30mg of DBol everyday for 6 weeks
    0.5mg GP Anastrozole per day 13 weeks

    This is very similiar to my first cycle and I lost a lot of it. After my first cycle I did not do any PCT.

    Now I have some Clomid and was wondering how much i should be taking

    I am 30years old
    165lbs
    12-15% BF

    Any help on helping my keep as much mass as possible would be great

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  • sam1976
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    Originally posted by LitD View Post
    I will run test cyp ,arimidex, nolvadex... Please review lab to make sure im good to go. Let me know if you need more info off my lab. Thanks....

    Glucose,serum 87 Testosterone,serum 358 Estradiol 13.1 AST 24 ALT 40
    everything looks to be in order. your test levels are a little on the low side. i beleive 300-1200 in about the normal range, so you are just over that. how old are you? i would expect that running a couple cc's of test a wk will have a pretty strong impact on you!

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  • CFINCH007
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    Hey Sam, let me know if you can give me some advice. Doing my second cycle and I want to keep as much of my gains as possible. Here is what I will be doing:

    200mg of Super Test (Test E @ 20MG, Test D @ 100MG, Test P @80MG) twice a week for 10 weeks
    150mg of DECA twice a week for 10 weeks
    30mg of DBol everyday for 6 weeks
    0.5mg GP Anastrozole per day 13 weeks

    This is very similiar to my first cycle and I lost a lot of it. After my first cycle I did not do any PCT.

    Now I have some Clomid and was wondering how much i should be taking

    I am 30years old
    165lbs
    12-15% BF

    Any help on helping my keep as much mass as possible would be great

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  • LitD
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    I will run test cyp ,arimidex, nolvadex... Please review lab to make sure im good to go. Let me know if you need more info off my lab. Thanks....

    Glucose,serum 87 Testosterone,serum 358 Estradiol 13.1 AST 24 ALT 40

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  • sam1976
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    [QUOTE=Akpeaks907;41087]Sam, I am looking at what to use for my very first cycle. My training is definitely there and i just hired George Farah as my nutritionist so i will have that aspect as well. I've heard test is the best thing to run but then i have also heard to run an oral and injectible together like Dianabol and test.. Let me know what your thoughts are[/QUOTE

    check the second post in this thread. you can add in a low dose dbol kick start for 4-6wks. thats what i would suggest. you could always ask farah though. if you're already paying him, i would get the most out of it. are you using him to get ready for a show?

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  • Akpeaks907
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    Sam, I am looking at what to use for my very first cycle. My training is definitely there and i just hired George Farah as my nutritionist so i will have that aspect as well. I've heard test is the best thing to run but then i have also heard to run an oral and injectible together like Dianabol and test.. Let me know what your thoughts are

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  • JkW4244
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    thanks for the great info as always! yeah i'm new to AAS so i'm planning on kick starting a 12 week test cyp cycle with 20 mg of Dbol for 4 weeks, so i was trying to decide whether or not to exchange the dbol with tbol or not but once again the words of the wise were enough to convince me, thanks brotha!

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    Originally posted by sam1976 View Post
    haha! then you would have guessed right, bro! i'll be honest, every time the option has come up, i always go with dbol, simply because it has worked so well and it is cheap. i dont have anything against tbol. i just feel that the main goal of this type of oral is to get your body into a positive nitrogen balance, quickly. dbol can do that at (usually) a much lower price point. i know some people will say "dbol makes me too bloated". well i dont suggest high doses of dbol. i keep the dose down and this, in itself, controls a lot of the sides people complain about. i hear newbies taking 50mg ED ! i never go past 30mg and have never seen a need to. i find that for a new user...or a more experinced user, 25-30mg is fine. more than enough to do the job of kick starting a cycle
    Interesting.. most people who have done many cycles the lowest amount i see them taking is like 40mg foratleast 6 weeks.. crazy mofos.. 6 weeks is the longest ill go... anyway i like how u keep ur doses at an optimal level u dont abuse it with anything i have seen u post.... and i think u should push that too more people.. becuz in most peoples mind sets the mroe gear the bigger@! but then mroe sides ect... u just have to find a happy median.. and people listen to u..

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  • sam1976
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    Originally posted by JkW4244 View Post
    hey Sam, been reading up on your thread and there's some great stuff on here, i was just curious about your opinion on tbol vs dbol to jump start a test cyp cycle. if i were to guess from reading your suggestions i would think you lean towards dbol, thanks again for your time brotha!
    haha! then you would have guessed right, bro! i'll be honest, every time the option has come up, i always go with dbol, simply because it has worked so well and it is cheap. i dont have anything against tbol. i just feel that the main goal of this type of oral is to get your body into a positive nitrogen balance, quickly. dbol can do that at (usually) a much lower price point. i know some people will say "dbol makes me too bloated". well i dont suggest high doses of dbol. i keep the dose down and this, in itself, controls a lot of the sides people complain about. i hear newbies taking 50mg ED ! i never go past 30mg and have never seen a need to. i find that for a new user...or a more experinced user, 25-30mg is fine. more than enough to do the job of kick starting a cycle

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  • JkW4244
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    hey Sam, been reading up on your thread and there's some great stuff on here, i was just curious about your opinion on tbol vs dbol to jump start a test cyp cycle. if i were to guess from reading your suggestions i would think you lean towards dbol, thanks again for your time brotha!

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  • sam1976
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    test should be the base of every cycle. thats why its a great place to start when you enter the world of AAS. you start with your base and go from there, you can add other compounds as you go. in this case, you're adding dbol. the dbol is going to add a good amount of water weight fast, whcih will allow you to lift heavier. you will quickly be in a positive nitrogen state, so if you are eating enough, you will add good lean mass. then, as the cycle continues, the test will kick in and you'll really see the magic of running AAS. you will gain a fair amount of water from a bulking cycle like this, depending on how much AI you end up using. the water retention is a good thing though, as i mentioned. it'll help keep you strong. as the end, the water retention will go away and you will be left with your gains. the water wasn't "gains" to begin with. i would expect to keep about 40-60% of what you see on the scale, depending on how well your diet is. if your diet is poor, you wont retain anything from any cycle. on my first cycle i put on 20 lbs by the end, i think i kept 8-12 lbs when everything was said and done. thats just the way this game goes. its a constant game of 2 steps forward, 1 step back. eventually though, you can get there how much you gain will depend on your genetic potential, your diet and how much muscle you already had.
    now lets look at gh...you're not going to gain anything from gh unless you run it at high doses and couple it with test and possibly insulin. if you run 4iu a day on its own, you might gain a few lbs over a much longer period of time, but the gains from gh are nothing like the gains from AAS. plus, you're going to have to drop up to a few grand to get enough gh to run for the minimum time...4-6 months AND you still wonf gain much unless you're on test!!! after you get used to gh, you hold little water on it, so what you see on the scale wont drop the way it does when you come off of AAS, but i promise you, you are NOT going to gain 8-12 lbs in 12 wks on gh.

    Originally posted by xamo View Post
    Hey again Sam,

    I've told a friend of mine who has been using AAS for several years the cycle I was about to start which is as you probably remember Test E 500 w dbol the first 6 weeks at 20/30.. Arimidex twice a week, and pct with ari and nolva. His reaction was that I would probably lose 75% of the gains I made afterward. Is that true? If so, what can I do to prevent that? He's suggested HGH, but I'd rather stay away from that stuff..
    sam1976
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    Last edited by sam1976; 11-08-2011, 02:01 PM.

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  • xamo
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    Hey again Sam,

    I've told a friend of mine who has been using AAS for several years the cycle I was about to start which is as you probably remember Test E 500 w dbol the first 6 weeks at 20/30.. Arimidex twice a week, and pct with ari and nolva. His reaction was that I would probably lose 75% of the gains I made afterward. Is that true? If so, what can I do to prevent that? He's suggested HGH, but I'd rather stay away from that stuff..
    xamo
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    Last edited by xamo; 11-08-2011, 05:28 AM.

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  • sam1976
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    hey bro, do they have a design on them? naposim has a triangle on one side. i've seen a couple others around that are white. your best bet would be to snap a pic and post them on the board. if there is anyone who knows his brands, its our mod ronny t. post up a thread with pic and i'm sure he'll know whats up. i will say, sometimes, i haven't noticed much off of dbol until i get closer to 2 wks. other times, its about 10 days. also, if they are a UGL and happened to be a little underdosed, they just might take a little longer to build up.

    as far as GP dbol goes, i think it is the bomb. i was just telling another member yesterday, GP and naposim are my personal favorites. due to cost though, GP wins every time for me now days if you are interested in them, look at the sponsor section of our board. not sure if the sponsor is 100% open for business in all sections of their web site, but they are the place i get mine

    Originally posted by Frazer View Post
    Sam:

    I have handled a lot od Dbal in my days but my supplier, who has been good in the past supplied me with Dbal that arrived and were white tabs. All the Dbal I have ever seen was pink. Maybe I am just out of the loop with all of the Underground lab gear but what do you think??? It seems to me that after a week I should able to feel this for sure and it seems I am not!!!! It might be time to look for a new supplier. I know what the rules are on this site so how can I get info on GP gear and how to get sum without people posting what they are not supposed to?? How do I get contact info properly?

    Thanks
    Fraz

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