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    sam1976
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    hey guys,

    for the time being, with the additional work i'm doing for Project Get Shredded, i am pretty busy and for a time, i am going to close this thread. that being said, i spoke with our sponsor and he has put together a pretty cool feature on his site. he's brought on a pro bodybuilder to run a Q and A, directly off his site. http://qa.napsgear.net/ this is the first of its kind on a gear site. it looks like you just have to start an account to use the feature. i managed to speak with the anonymous BBer and he seems pretty excited to help. so for the time, go to http://qa.napsgear.net/ with all your Q and A's. i'm certain he'll be able to direct you.

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  • BIGWAGZ
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    I am returning to the use of anabolics after about 25 years, I was fed them in high school and I loved the physique they helped me attain, but I never knew how much there was out there now a days. I have now been diagnosed with low t and also I am a disabled vet the va has given me 1ml of depo-testosterone per month for 6 months now. I am enjoying the feeling but it seems it has given me the desire to take this ride as far as I can and I am looking to increase my intake of test. I would like to know what you recommend that is close to depo, and I also want to speed up the fat loss around my mid section can you please help me figure out how to take Clen unless you can tell me a better product. I want to keep it relatively simple for a little while at least until I get comfortable with the stack and cycling again. (a little back ground info, back in the day I was on deca and d-bol) should I also consider a gh enhancer as well? Thanks in advance for any help you can send my way!!!

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  • downunderboi
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    hi, im new to the forum, i recently had shoulder surgery in dec (bankart repair s/p dislocation), and am just about to start upper body workouts, should i stay off gear till i can lift heavy, or do you think the gear will help it heal, by the way- the shoulder does not feel right
    thankyou for your time
    Rodney

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  • nchs
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    Hi Sam, I found this forum and was curious as you are one of the few people who don't freak out about halotestin. I'm interested in trying it. Here is what I had in mind.

    Weeks 1-6
    Test prop 700mg/wk
    Var 100mg/day
    Halotestin 30mg/day

    7-12
    Test prop 700mg/wk
    Tren a 500mg/wk

    Adex 2mg/wk

    The total mg are about normal for me.

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  • sam1976
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    Originally posted by Bigs251 View Post
    The doctor had to X-ray my knees for a surgery and told me they were already closed. I'm only 5"7 but oh well. I plan on running 5ius a day 5 on 2 off. My diet right now is 100% in check for this contest haven't cheated once. So what's your suggestion? Thanks
    i've used gh at 3 different times and havent seen much difference between them. first thing in the am, especially if i'm about to do fasted cardio. preworkout and post workout. i always prefer to take it IM to get faster higher peaks.

    when you start, start with 2iu and see how that effects you for a couple of wks. then i'd add in .5 iu every wk until you reach your dose or become uncomfortable. i always notice that i have more tendinitis for the first month or 2, until my body gets used to it

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    The doctor had to X-ray my knees for a surgery and told me they were already closed. I'm only 5"7 but oh well. I plan on running 5ius a day 5 on 2 off. My diet right now is 100% in check for this contest haven't cheated once. So what's your suggestion? Thanks

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  • sam1976
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    your cycle looks good to me. i think a conservative dose of dbol is very wise. see how you feel and then if you want, add 10 mg. i think that whatever AI you want to use and know how to use, is the best one. i've just had a lot of expereince with adex and can predict fairly well how it will work for someone. thats why i suggest it. as fat as liver support. sure. i use milk thistle, i'll run it a couple wks before the cycle, all the way through pct and then sometimes continue on. i take 1000mg day.

    Originally posted by kjtex View Post
    Hey Sam! Been a while since i posted, hope all is well. I'm getting ready to start cycle and just wanted to run it by you and ask a few questions since there seems to be conflicting comments by different people. So far this is what I have come up with. As a reminder, I am 5'7 190 lbs 12-13% bf.
    1-17 sust @ 600 mg
    1-17eq @ 540 mg
    1-5 or 6 dbol @ 20-30 mg/day (do you suggest taking 10 mg 2 or 3x a day? I have never taken dbol so I was thinking about starting with 20 mg/day for 2 weeks then going up to 30mg/day for 3.5 weeks. Sound reasonable?)
    20th week start clomid = 100 first day/50 everyday for 3 weeks
    AI: I've always taken aromasin but you seem to favor adex so was thinking of trying it instead.
    Do you see anything that needs to be changed or that is missing?
    at week 13 or 14 i was thinking of adding 50 mg winny for remainder of cycle depending on my BF% at the time. I have some and honestly just wanted to try it and see if I even like it enough to do in future cycles. If I decide to add winny, do you see anything for cycle support that i should change?

    I read debate on milk thistle for liver support etc., so do you have suggestions on this or what would be best for me.

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  • sam1976
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    Originally posted by rmcgraw1014 View Post
    hey sam you post some great stuff im working on my second cycle now ive trained for about 3 years im 24 6' 195 first cycle was simple just sus 270 and nolva im looking to step it up a little my diet is pretty good eat 5 times a day fist of protein chicken steak etc with rice or sweet pot with green veggies all day what kinda cycle should i run next i want to get bigger but focus on getting ripped i broke my back in the marine corps so had to take it easy. thinking about test e 500mg a week dbol to 30mg to kick start maybe some tren or deca with adex ed and then nolva 2 weeks after thanks ahead of time
    i would leave the tren or deca out for now and go with the 500 test 30 dbol. that would be a lot more gear than before! the dbol will add weight fast and you'll be strong as an ox. then yea, pct starts 2 wks after last inject of test e or cyp. closer to 3 wks after sust

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    Originally posted by 05mako View Post
    Thanks for info Sam. I went to my md about a year ago and he checked my test and it was on the low end of normal according to him. He said nothing to worry about. But after a year I'm feeling tired and lethargic with diminished libido even more now than then. I did ask him about test and he said it was not needed at that time. I feel like he probably wouldn't give me any anyways. With that I have heard about the deca being hard to recover from and maybe I don't need it.

    What are your thoughts about the hgh 191 do you think with some test c or e and some hgh I could increase my libido and lose the few pounds I've got around my mid section? Like I was saying I still hit the gym but really haven't seen any improvement when it comes to def. strength wise yes but little in the way of def. I realize I'm an older cat but really don't feel it mentally. It would be nice to have more energy not only in the gym but also in the rack. I'm not looking to go back to 20yrs old but 30 or 40 would be nice. Thanks for your advice in advance again and any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
    sounds like you need a new dr if he isnt willing to check it again. there are progressive minded MDs out there who will be willing to help you get in the most optimal state. IMO, as far as running a cycle goes, its probably going to be hard to recover from any gear you use, given your age and how low your levels already were last year. just keep that in mind. i would consider using some hcg 250iu 2x a wk through the cycle. if you ran a low dose test cycle, around 250mg EW, i bet you would do very very well. i'd throw in a little adex, somwhere around .25mg to .5mg EOD should be plenty for a low dose like this.

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    Originally posted by mdavid82 View Post
    hello sam first i will state that i have done a few cycles in the past. mainly test, d-bol and deca. mixed it up and switched deca for eq once and have added winny to the mix near the end to harden up. i usually take 50mg d-bol for the first 4 weeks and test at 750mg per week. i have had gyno once and had surgery to remove it. my last cycle was d-bol 50mg per day and test cyp for 12 weeks at 750 per week. this cycle i will be doing 750mg sustanon for 12 weeks along with d-bol again for the first 4 weeks at 50mg. i used arimidex last time but didnt like how my joints felt and was going to use nolvadex for any gyno issues i might get. is this ok since i dont mind any water bloat since i dont really get it. sorry and thanks again
    sounds like you were using too much adex if your joints were getting painful. everyone's needs are different. maybe try backing it off. personally, i dont like the idea of nlova for estrogen control. it wont stop the conversion of test to estrogen, like adex, which in turn will help your test a little higher since less is converting.

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  • sam1976
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    Originally posted by Bigs251 View Post
    Yes I've ran around 8 cycles I'm 20 years old. Currently 7 weeks out from a competition. My growth plates were fully shut by the age of 16 which is why I'm gonna go ahead and try growth hormones. Money isn't a problem and so far I've got 6 kits stocked up
    out of curiosity, how do you know that your plates closed at 16? right on. what dose are you planning to do? gh has helped my look but for the most part, as far as supps go, it's been gear thats made the biggest difference....well getting my diet right and learning to train the way my body responds has made the biggest differecne, but you get what i mean

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  • kjtex
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    getting ready for new cycle

    Hey Sam! Been a while since i posted, hope all is well. I'm getting ready to start cycle and just wanted to run it by you and ask a few questions since there seems to be conflicting comments by different people. So far this is what I have come up with. As a reminder, I am 5'7 190 lbs 12-13% bf.
    1-17 sust @ 600 mg
    1-17eq @ 540 mg
    1-5 or 6 dbol @ 20-30 mg/day (do you suggest taking 10 mg 2 or 3x a day? I have never taken dbol so I was thinking about starting with 20 mg/day for 2 weeks then going up to 30mg/day for 3.5 weeks. Sound reasonable?)
    20th week start clomid = 100 first day/50 everyday for 3 weeks
    AI: I've always taken aromasin but you seem to favor adex so was thinking of trying it instead.
    Do you see anything that needs to be changed or that is missing?
    at week 13 or 14 i was thinking of adding 50 mg winny for remainder of cycle depending on my BF% at the time. I have some and honestly just wanted to try it and see if I even like it enough to do in future cycles. If I decide to add winny, do you see anything for cycle support that i should change?

    I read debate on milk thistle for liver support etc., so do you have suggestions on this or what would be best for me.

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  • rmcgraw1014
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    second cycle

    hey sam you post some great stuff im working on my second cycle now ive trained for about 3 years im 24 6' 195 first cycle was simple just sus 270 and nolva im looking to step it up a little my diet is pretty good eat 5 times a day fist of protein chicken steak etc with rice or sweet pot with green veggies all day what kinda cycle should i run next i want to get bigger but focus on getting ripped i broke my back in the marine corps so had to take it easy. thinking about test e 500mg a week dbol to 30mg to kick start maybe some tren or deca with adex ed and then nolva 2 weeks after thanks ahead of time

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  • 05mako
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    More from older newbie

    Originally posted by sam1976 View Post
    at your age, there is a very good chance your body is no longer producing optimal levels of test. i would suggest going to your dr and getting blood work done before you do anything. there is a very good chance you qualify for HRT. what you want to find, is a good progressive endo who will restore you to YOUTHFUL LEVELS. some md's will restore you to that of a 55 yr old man. thats not what we're looking for. youthful levels will be around 800-1200 ng/dl. i have a very good feeling that this, in itself, will make a huge impact on your life. if this is the case, there is no need for pct, as it is a medication you will use for the rest of your life. a good md will be interested in controlling estrogen and possibly giving you hcg to maintain teste size.

    keep in mind, if you do go the aas cycle route, the older guys seem to have a harder time recovering. deca is especially hard to recover from. if you were on hrt, you could cycle in deca for periods of time, around 200mg is great for the joints and gives me an overall sense of well being. for a small, easy to manage cycle, 250mg test cyp or test e, along with 200mg deca per wk would give you some good results. i would also use adex around .25mg to .5mg EOD.

    i can be almost certain you'll really like using test or test/deca. my main concern is your recovery.
    Thanks for info Sam. I went to my md about a year ago and he checked my test and it was on the low end of normal according to him. He said nothing to worry about. But after a year I'm feeling tired and lethargic with diminished libido even more now than then. I did ask him about test and he said it was not needed at that time. I feel like he probably wouldn't give me any anyways. With that I have heard about the deca being hard to recover from and maybe I don't need it.

    What are your thoughts about the hgh 191 do you think with some test c or e and some hgh I could increase my libido and lose the few pounds I've got around my mid section? Like I was saying I still hit the gym but really haven't seen any improvement when it comes to def. strength wise yes but little in the way of def. I realize I'm an older cat but really don't feel it mentally. It would be nice to have more energy not only in the gym but also in the rack. I'm not looking to go back to 20yrs old but 30 or 40 would be nice. Thanks for your advice in advance again and any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

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  • mdavid82
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    hello sam first i will state that i have done a few cycles in the past. mainly test, d-bol and deca. mixed it up and switched deca for eq once and have added winny to the mix near the end to harden up. i usually take 50mg d-bol for the first 4 weeks and test at 750mg per week. i have had gyno once and had surgery to remove it. my last cycle was d-bol 50mg per day and test cyp for 12 weeks at 750 per week. this cycle i will be doing 750mg sustanon for 12 weeks along with d-bol again for the first 4 weeks at 50mg. i used arimidex last time but didnt like how my joints felt and was going to use nolvadex for any gyno issues i might get. is this ok since i dont mind any water bloat since i dont really get it. sorry and thanks again

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