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i've seen good reviews on gen shi labs around the net. i havent heard about harcore though. if naps carries them though, i am sure they are good. they wouldnt risk their messing up they rep by carrying poor quality gear.
as far as orals for a transformation...hmmmm, lets see. how about tbol. anything would work though with the right diet.
how would you run the tbol (40 mgs ED for 4 weeks?) how much clomid would you use to prevent shrinking of the testes and what do you think about adding deca...?
This will be my first cycle. Please help if you see anything that needs changing
wks 1-8 GP Test E 500mg per wk
wks 1-4 GP Methan10 30mg ED
wks 1-8 GP Arimidex .5mg EOD
PCT Nolvadex 40mg for 1st wk then 20mg for sec.
Sam, after some much needed advice u gave me in a recent post of mine, i've decided this will be my cycle...
wks 1-12: 250mg test c x 2/wk (sun night & wed morning)
wks 1-12: .5mg adex eod
wks 1-4: 30 mg d bol ed (might go a little higher on the first couple days)
PCT
wk 14: 40mg nolva ed
wk 15-17: 20mg nolva ed
wk14-17: natty test booster (either prime or test factor)
just one more thing though. along with the adex while "on", i am planning on using AI's cycle support. with the multiple contradictions out there on the boards, will i be safe in using just that? i am very concerned about my cholest more than anything else really. i will also be using accutane throughout the entire cycle because i had acne at a lower dose/wk last time i used but that shouldn't affect gains/results right? so please tell me what you think of that cycle and ANYTHING that i need to add to protect me and help me recover. remember i'm still a rookie. thanks man!
Sam, I was wanting to try out some Tren Ace for my next cycle... Want to harder up and cut. I was thinking running just a 8 week cycle of Tren Ace and Test. My question is how much Tren should I run and also I dont really want to pin ED, is that a must with Ace? What do you think this cycle should look like and if you could give me a lil PCT advice on it to I would be grateful..Thanks Sam
i found that when i pin ED with ace, the side effects are reduced. when i go EOD, my mood tends to swing a little, my sleep gets a little more interupted and i'm more prone to acne. that being said, you can try EOD and see how it goes. a lot of guys do it. somewhere around 75-100mg EOD would be good to start with. see how it effects you. less can still be very effective with this drug. it can be very supressive on hpta, so hcg wouldnt hurt. run it throughout at 250mcg E3D or so. then PCT would be as normal, start time depending on what kind of test you use.
Hey Sam, you told me to post my diet and PM you so you could answer my questions, I never heard back from you by PM or even here, Hope to hear from you soon!!!
Thanks!
sorry bro. got away from me. i will get back to you in the next day or 2
Sam, I was wanting to try out some Tren Ace for my next cycle... Want to harder up and cut. I was thinking running just a 8 week cycle of Tren Ace and Test. My question is how much Tren should I run and also I dont really want to pin ED, is that a must with Ace? What do you think this cycle should look like and if you could give me a lil PCT advice on it to I would be grateful..Thanks Sam
Hey Sam, you told me to post my diet and PM you so you could answer my questions, I never heard back from you by PM or even here, Hope to hear from you soon!!!
my personal opinion is that is a lot of stuff for pct. i would take much less or i would take nolva at 40mg first wk, then 20mg for 2-3 wks, or i would take 100mg clomid frist wk, then 2-3 wks at 50mg. more isnt going to make you recover faster or better. i would be more likely to run into side effects. in the second post in this thread, i outlined what i would suggest for a starter cycle along with PCT.
as far as timing, you are good, 2 wks after last inject
Good stuff, thanks Sam. I read that post, but while I was snooping around the forum I saw some people suggesting "more is better" for PCT to keep gains and reduce side effects, so I wanted to double check.
my personal opinion is that is a lot of stuff for pct. i would take much less or i would take nolva at 40mg first wk, then 20mg for 2-3 wks, or i would take 100mg clomid frist wk, then 2-3 wks at 50mg. more isnt going to make you recover faster or better. i would be more likely to run into side effects. in the second post in this thread, i outlined what i would suggest for a starter cycle along with PCT.
as far as timing, you are good, 2 wks after last inject
I'm going to be starting my first cycle and am not really sure how I should run the PCT. The cycle itself is just the beginner bulk cycle from naps which is:
Length 10 weeks
Weeks 1-4 GP Methan10 40 mg per day
Weeks 1-10 500mg GP Test Cyp per week
Weeks 1-10 GP Anastrozole .5 mg per day
For PCT I was planning on doing basically the PCT stack from naps, but without HCG, because from what I've gathered it isn't necessary for a short cycle like this one, so PCT would look like:
Weeks 1-4- 40 mg GP Nolva per day
Weeks 1-4 100mg GP Clomiphene per day
Weeks 1-5 1mg GP Anastrozole per day
Does this seem okay to you?
Edit: To clarify, I would start PCT 2 weeks after the last pin.
I'm going to be starting my first cycle and am not really sure how I should run the PCT. The cycle itself is just the beginner bulk cycle from naps which is:
Length 10 weeks
Weeks 1-4 GP Methan10 40 mg per day
Weeks 1-10 500mg GP Test Cyp per week
Weeks 1-10 GP Anastrozole .5 mg per day
For PCT I was planning on doing basically the PCT stack from naps, but without HCG, because from what I've gathered it isn't necessary for a short cycle like this one, so PCT would look like:
Weeks 1-4- 40 mg GP Nolva per day
Weeks 1-4 100mg GP Clomiphene per day
Weeks 1-5 1mg GP Anastrozole per day
Does this seem okay to you?
Edit: To clarify, I would start PCT 2 weeks after the last pin.
Hey Sam I have a quick and simple question. Would you say 40mg Prov ED is enough as an estrogen blocker? I was using .5 arimidex EOD as well but I started having joint pain especially in hands... so I'm only using Ari once a week with 40mg prov ED... but I wanna know your opinion
i cant remember your goals off hand. if you are dieting, i would suggest that you try lowering the dose of adex instead of stopping it all together. try to go with say .25mg EOD. if your bulking, you dont need it as much. keep in mind that no matter what though, one key benefit of adex is that it keeps more test in your system, because less converts to estrogen. prov isnt going to stop aromitizing
if you are still running this cycle, you need to reduce the adex, asap. .5mgED is wayyyyy too much for a bulking cycle. you need some estrogen to maximize your gains. for your cycle, somewhere in the ballpark of .25mg to .5mg EOD is where you want to be. the less, the better.
also, for a first cycle, i would peronally lower the dbol. 30mg is plenty, especially of geneza brand. they are very strong. i cant count the number of times i've used dbol, but i have never needed to go high than 30mg. the less you can take now, the better. as you go on to new cycles, you're only going to want to raise the doses, so lower doses will give you room to grow later. plus, at say 25-30mg, you will blow up on your first cycle!!
as far as HCG, no it isnt necessary, but if you wanted to, you can use it. somwhere around 250iu every 3 days until PCT. for pct info, see my beginner cycle suggestion in the second post of this thread. keep us posted on your progress bud!
Do i need to use HCG Inj 5000iu doing or after my gear cycle. What produces i need to use after 2 week off me gear cycle? ( Any natural test build boost would be me like ZMA ,Tribulus 1000 an BPI Sports:A.5.0) You thank that all i need for my PCT cycle. Here My gear cycle
Items included: 2 x GP Test Cyp 250, 2 x GP Methan10, 2 x GP Anastrozole
Cycle Length and layout:
Length 10 weeks
Weeks 1-4 GP Methan10 40 mg per day
Weeks 1-10 500mg GP Test Cyp per week
Weeks 1-10 GP Anastrozole .5 mg per day (continue to run this for 10 days after cycle)
This is a basic testosterone cycle with an oral kickstart, and an estrogen blocker ran throughout to prevent excess bloat and gyno symptoms. Take 4 GP Methan 10 about an hour before your weight training session starting on day 1, and continue this for 4 weeks. Take 1ml of GP Test Cyp 250 on day 1, and another 1ml injection 2-3 days later and continue this for 10 weeks. Most people find it easiest to stick to a same day dosing schedule for injections. (Example: Sun & Wed or Mon & Thur). Take half of a GP Anastrozole starting on day 1 and continue throughout the entire duration of the cycle, and for 10 days following to suppress any estrogen that may result from the lingering testosterone
ok, i hear you. math can get confusing on this stuff sometimes. if you put in 2ml of bac, like you said, each ml would then contain 2500iu. so, lets just work with 1ml at a time here. what i'd do is take your total number of IU, 2500 and divide it by the number of IU i want to use at once. 250. so 2500 divided by 250 is 10. so you have 10 injects per ML, thats 1/10 ml, which is 1 clicks on a u100 insulin pin. all together, you'll get 20 shots per bottle.
I am not the brightest bulb on the tree and am pulling my hair out over this IU conversion. I have 5000 iu vials of HCG which I have added 2ml of the water. Thus there is 2500 iu's per ml. I am set up to take 250iu E3D now. How the hell do I figure out how many ml I need to pin for each time. I have a total of three of these 5000iu vials.
How long will they last and how do I store now that they are activated.
I think this means there are 20 250iu injection per 5000 iu vial. Thus I would pin only .1ml e3d to get the 250 iu...correct???? or did I mess something up there??
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