Ask Sam1976

[sam1976]

i would look at your diet. the only thing gear is going to do is allow you to utilize more protein and use it to grow faster than normal. if you arent getting the right amounts of food, you will never be happy with your results. go to the second post of this thread and you'll see my suggestion, you can add an oral like dbol for 25-30 mg for the first 4-6 wks as a kick start. use a long acting test though. your blood levels will build more, you'll retain more fluid and be able to move bigger weight.

what are your stats, weight, height, age, time training. also and very important, how much protein carbs and fats do you eat every day? how much of that protein is from a powder and how much is real food?

Sam thanks in advance for any input,
I'm new and I have taken my time to read posts and clear up some confusion I have had with gear. I have had 2 simple cycles that I have done in the past and with not so good results. The first I had no idea what I was doing and I was given a blend of Trenbolone and not knowing what I was doing I used it, at around 1 cc a week for 4 weeks. The goods: It changed my body, I became harder, lost fat and was sitting at 160 lbs at 5 % BF, best I have ever looked. The Bad: I had no PCT and had no idea about it, so I had no sex drive, lost of complete libido and had a very hard time recovering and experienced with depression. My second cycle after reading I decided to just do Test, I did 12 weeks of Test P (GP from Naps) at 150 EOD with aromasin during cycle of 12.5 EOD and Nolva with clomid for PCT. I had no problems during cycle and no problem recovering post cycle. The problem I had I really didn't see much improvement in my physic or strength or gains for that matter, I was disappointed.
I'm looking for advice to be able to do a nice clean cycle, that will give me maintainable solid gains. I'm looking to be able to put on 10-15 LBS of muscle but clean dense muscle not water weight or retention, I would like to be able to keep what I gain for the long term. Please can you guys direct me in a proper cycle with proper during cycle and post cycle information and advice on what brand has worked for you. I'm open to experienced and solid advice, Thank you all for the support and help.

[sam1976]

the only way to know if you have recovered is to have had blood work done before the cycle to see where you're at and then have it done after to make sure you have come back. at a few wks into pct, you have yet to really be off. your RBC will still be really high. for several more wks, you'll probably still feel an increased pump in the gym. i usually find that things drop off about 8 wks after i start PCT. if you want to recover better, i would certainly consider using HCG on cycle and up to a few days before PCT. if you find that you aren't recovering, you can run some HCG for a couple wks while taking a low dose of clomid or nolva and then start a full PCT over again. if you dont use labs to see if you've recovered, there is a internet based "rule of thumb" that states time on PLUS pct should be equal to time off. some may need more. some less. it will depend on the individual and the drugs they used. fyi, deca is very hard for some to recover from. its awful on me

30 years old
6' 3"
215 lbs
12-15% BF
always been athletic with sports but very lean

So, I ran my first cycle and had great results. I was on 250 sus pinning every 8 days with 200 deca every 4 for 10 weeks. With it I was on 10mg exemestane ED. Once I finished my gear, I was waiting 18 days for the sus to burn before starting PCT but was still on the AI ED. I developed the beginning of gyno on day 8 after last pin. Ran letro and had full reversal and tapered down for PCT (I heard letro cancels SERMs).

This is my 3rd week of PCT Clomid 100/75/50/50 with Nolva 40/40/20/20 with the same AI treatment as above and my testes have yet to come back. I haven't lost any size or weight but I am still eating like I'm bulking.

My question is, without getting BW is there any other way to gauge readiness for another cycle? I am wanting to continue adding some mass but focus on hardening and solidifing all my gains. I have available tren and test and thinking of running 6-8 weeks of 300 tren e with 100 test e. Going to run cabergoline 1mg/week for the progest tren causes.

Couple more questions
Should I run some HCG to help jump start my system? Can I start my next cycle with the HCG? I can post my diet if needed but from what I have posted am I on the right track? Any advice is appreciated.

[sam1976]

fluid retention has its place. here is a thread i posted not too long ago on the topic.

http://juicedmuscle.com/showthread.p...ention-and-you

Sam and anyone with the knowledge please reply,
Can you explain about why people or steroid charts indicate that some drugs like (EQ, Primo, Anavar) have maintainable gains and you are able to gain LBM and maintain your gains, and those chart show other drugs like, Test, Tbol, Dbol and others not having the capabilities to have LBM and maintainable gains. Is this true? If it is, why would we continue to use these other drugs that only create water gains and the gains that we make on cycle and are harder to maintain than say (anavar, primo, eq). I have never understood this and would greatly appreciate anyone informing me about the use of different steriods and maintaing gains.
Thanks you everyone

[fit27]

Sam and anyone with the knowledge please reply,
Can you explain about why people or steroid charts indicate that some drugs like (EQ, Primo, Anavar) have maintainable gains and you are able to gain LBM and maintain your gains, and those chart show other drugs like, Test, Tbol, Dbol and others not having the capabilities to have LBM and maintainable gains. Is this true? If it is, why would we continue to use these other drugs that only create water gains and the gains that we make on cycle and are harder to maintain than say (anavar, primo, eq). I have never understood this and would greatly appreciate anyone informing me about the use of different steriods and maintaing gains.
Thanks you everyone

[hooligan365]

Hey Sam. I tryed to order the test 400 like you said. And their not fixing it? I contacted support and am waiting on them to respond. Any ideas?

[fit27]

Sam thanks in advance for any input,
I'm new and I have taken my time to read posts and clear up some confusion I have had with gear. I have had 2 simple cycles that I have done in the past and with not so good results. The first I had no idea what I was doing and I was given a blend of Trenbolone and not knowing what I was doing I used it, at around 1 cc a week for 4 weeks. The goods: It changed my body, I became harder, lost fat and was sitting at 160 lbs at 5 % BF, best I have ever looked. The Bad: I had no PCT and had no idea about it, so I had no sex drive, lost of complete libido and had a very hard time recovering and experienced with depression. My second cycle after reading I decided to just do Test, I did 12 weeks of Test P (GP from Naps) at 150 EOD with aromasin during cycle of 12.5 EOD and Nolva with clomid for PCT. I had no problems during cycle and no problem recovering post cycle. The problem I had I really didn't see much improvement in my physic or strength or gains for that matter, I was disappointed.
I'm looking for advice to be able to do a nice clean cycle, that will give me maintainable solid gains. I'm looking to be able to put on 10-15 LBS of muscle but clean dense muscle not water weight or retention, I would like to be able to keep what I gain for the long term. Please can you guys direct me in a proper cycle with proper during cycle and post cycle information and advice on what brand has worked for you. I'm open to experienced and solid advice, Thank you all for the support and help.

[Nomejoda]

Couple questions for the experts

30 years old
6' 3"
215 lbs
12-15% BF
always been athletic with sports but very lean

So, I ran my first cycle and had great results. I was on 250 sus pinning every 8 days with 200 deca every 4 for 10 weeks. With it I was on 10mg exemestane ED. Once I finished my gear, I was waiting 18 days for the sus to burn before starting PCT but was still on the AI ED. I developed the beginning of gyno on day 8 after last pin. Ran letro and had full reversal and tapered down for PCT (I heard letro cancels SERMs).

This is my 3rd week of PCT Clomid 100/75/50/50 with Nolva 40/40/20/20 with the same AI treatment as above and my testes have yet to come back. I haven't lost any size or weight but I am still eating like I'm bulking.

My question is, without getting BW is there any other way to gauge readiness for another cycle? I am wanting to continue adding some mass but focus on hardening and solidifing all my gains. I have available tren and test and thinking of running 6-8 weeks of 300 tren e with 100 test e. Going to run cabergoline 1mg/week for the progest tren causes.

Couple more questions
Should I run some HCG to help jump start my system? Can I start my next cycle with the HCG? I can post my diet if needed but from what I have posted am I on the right track? Any advice is appreciated.

[EthanWS6]

i have had great results using clen as i outlined above

Right on, that's all I need to hear. Thanks for the info bro!

[sam1976]

So if I'm finishing a bulk at 5000 calories, instead of cutting back to 3k when the gear is out of my system, I might want to stick at 5k for a few months?

yes sir, i would keep the food intake high to hold onto the muscle you've gained. get your body used to holding it. and remember, if you have more muscle now, it is going to take more protein to maintain it

[sam1976]

Cool, yeah I was thinking of wait 2 months either way so that's perfect lol. So with the clen are you saying to run it for 12 weeks continuously? Don't come on and off? I really don't know anything about clen other than what little I've seen of it on here lately haha.

i have had great results using clen as i outlined above

[sam1976]

Hey SAM whats your take on oral tren? Have you used this before and if so what was your results? And can this be ran with test prop and npp?

the concern i would have with running OT with NPP is that they are both 19 nor's. more likely to have proges issues by combining them. i have used OT. personally, i like tren ace better. i feel like 3 or so wks isnt long enough to make a ton of changes to your physique, but with ace not being as toxic, i can make better changes over say 6-8 wks. if i want to add in a powerful androgen at the end, i would consider halo or a slightly less dramatic drug like winny would work very well. neither of them are 19 nors, so they will combine beautifully. halo or winny for the last 4 wks of a prop/npp cycle would be a promising combo with the right diet

[phatdaddy77]

Hey SAM whats your take on oral tren? Have you used this before and if so what was your results? And can this be ran with test prop and npp?

[EthanWS6]

you'll want to be very careful cutting calories after gaining new muscle, especially if you want to do cut down with gear. i would honestly wait at least 6 wks after pct... 2 months would be even better. your body is instantly going to want to revert back to the size you were before. it doesnt want to hold extra muscle. extra muscle takes alot of vital nutrients so your body will shed it quickly to be as economical as possible. after you come off gear, you wont have to hormonal support that was building and holding the muscle. in fact, your test will be poor at first. but even after you have recovered, it is probably going to take possibly even more nutrients than it took to build the muscle. there is a chance that some of this will get stored as fat. if you want to hold this muscle, it may take not looking exactly the way you want, in the time frame you're expecting.

after a couple months past pct, you should be in a better place to start reducing calories. just take your time and pull them slowly. as for clen, i would run it for around 12 wks, starting at 40mcg and adding 20mcg every 2 wks till you hit 120mcg and stay there for the rest of the duration. there is a lot of talk about 2 wks on 2 off, 2 days onn, 2 off. ect. you have to remember that the side effects of clen are not the effects of clen. you dont need to feel it, to have it working. your receptors will become a little down regulated, but only to a point. the clen will continue to work the entire time.

Cool, yeah I was thinking of wait 2 months either way so that's perfect lol. So with the clen are you saying to run it for 12 weeks continuously? Don't come on and off? I really don't know anything about clen other than what little I've seen of it on here lately haha.

[cmode44]

So if I'm finishing a bulk at 5000 calories, instead of cutting back to 3k when the gear is out of my system, I might want to stick at 5k for a few months?

[sam1976]

you'll want to be very careful cutting calories after gaining new muscle, especially if you want to do cut down with gear. i would honestly wait at least 6 wks after pct... 2 months would be even better. your body is instantly going to want to revert back to the size you were before. it doesnt want to hold extra muscle. extra muscle takes alot of vital nutrients so your body will shed it quickly to be as economical as possible. after you come off gear, you wont have to hormonal support that was building and holding the muscle. in fact, your test will be poor at first. but even after you have recovered, it is probably going to take possibly even more nutrients than it took to build the muscle. there is a chance that some of this will get stored as fat. if you want to hold this muscle, it may take not looking exactly the way you want, in the time frame you're expecting.

after a couple months past pct, you should be in a better place to start reducing calories. just take your time and pull them slowly. as for clen, i would run it for around 12 wks, starting at 40mcg and adding 20mcg every 2 wks till you hit 120mcg and stay there for the rest of the duration. there is a lot of talk about 2 wks on 2 off, 2 days onn, 2 off. ect. you have to remember that the side effects of clen are not the effects of clen. you dont need to feel it, to have it working. your receptors will become a little down regulated, but only to a point. the clen will continue to work the entire time.

Yeah Idk, it's weird. I've never been able to lose body fat while taking in this many calories. I started this cycle at 14% and I'm down to 9.5% now and my weight is still up ~15lbs haha. A friend of mine (started at 21%bf) is doing the same cycle, he is on week 8 I believe and he is now at 16%. I just figured it was the HCG lol. I think I will run the clen this spring, when do you recommend I take it? How long after PCT should I wait to cut my calories down and all that jazz?

Thanks sam!
Ethan