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[Oldguy45]

Sam,
When injecting Test Cyp why are some IM and some doing SubQ? Is SubQ less effective?

[EthanWS6]

i would use bacteriostatic water with your HCG. i put it in a vial mixed with 5cc's bac. that way, each cc is 1000iu. its easier for me to break down that way. 1/4cc being 250iu and what i would suggest using 2x a wk. you can mix less bac water and inject less volume if you're comfotable with that. yes, it needs to be kept cold or it will be ruined. you can go to youtube to find videos of people mixing hcg or gh. both are done the same way.

as far as caber, i would start with .5mg 2x a wk

be careful with drol. it can kill your hunger. if you find it hard to eat, it'll probably be because of the drol

Ok, thanks for the help Sam! So just don't use the supplied solvent at all then? And is there any special way to mix the powder with the Bac water, or just mix it in the amp and put it into the vial?

[HOOCH256]

Well i will pick up some HCG then and give it a shot on my next cycle, give it a shot at like 250 2xWK! Thanks sam

[sam1976]

i would use bacteriostatic water with your HCG. i put it in a vial mixed with 5cc's bac. that way, each cc is 1000iu. its easier for me to break down that way. 1/4cc being 250iu and what i would suggest using 2x a wk. you can mix less bac water and inject less volume if you're comfotable with that. yes, it needs to be kept cold or it will be ruined. you can go to youtube to find videos of people mixing hcg or gh. both are done the same way.

as far as caber, i would start with .5mg 2x a wk

be careful with drol. it can kill your hunger. if you find it hard to eat, it'll probably be because of the drol

Sam! What's up man? I know we've talked a little about this before but I'm still a little confused.

I'm running a cycle as follows in the Fall:
1-16 Test E 500mg/wk
1-15 Deca 300mg/wk
1-4 anadrol 25 (or 50, not sure yet)mg/wk
also running caber and adex through the cycle. (advice on caber dosage?)
and you mentioned that I should consider running Hcg in a small dose to keep from "crashing" when the deca stops. So, my question is this: How exactly do I mix the Hcg, and what dose should I run through the cycle? The product I purchased is "Pregnyl 5000". I bought two amps, both are 5000 iu's. They both came with a 1ml amp of Solvent (NaCl .9%). So how exactly do I go about mixing it and dosing it out? Also, does it need to be refrigerated once mixed?
Thanks Sam!

-Ethan

[sam1976]

proviron works more like a steroid where as hcg kicks your natural production on. whats freaking you out about HCG? you not going to desensitize yourself with it unless you use high doses for a long time. HRT drs have guys on 250 2x a wk, on a very regular basis. no problem at all.

Hey Sam kinda another thought on the low sex drive what are your thoughts about taking proviron during PCT? We both are just a lil freaked out by hcg honestly! Just seems like if not done right you could really mess your self up! Anyways from my reading sounds like proviron taken during PCT sounds like the ticket to help out!

HOOCH

[sam1976]

ok i understand. another issue is cost. alot of times the dr's like to start guys on gel, but you can say not only is it a mess and you're worried about it getting on your wife, but it's also so much more out of pocket than the injects. all 3 are viable reasons to go with injections over gel. ok bro, best of luck

I am not ON HRT, officially anyway, as prescribed by a doc. I obtained the gel to see if it would have any effect on me. After doing it for a week I wanted to avoid the mess of daily gel baths, so I wanted to investigate injections. I inquired at the anti-aging sites, submitted my bloodwork to them and got a starter protocol outlined. I didn't buy form them yet very expensive.

If I am doing injections, it would be nice too to achieve some nice gains, get some energy, wood, and just to feel better in general. I have been cautious and reading a lot here, so I can do it the right way. There is SO MUCH information to absorb, one has to ask the questions out loud to make sure they are interpreting the info correctly. I appreciate your experience and your input.

My plan was, after the cycle, and recovery, go back to my doctor or to a new one and explain how much better I felt by doing TRT doses on my own, and see if he will prescribe the stuff to me. That way I won't have to purchase elsewhere. I have the before and after bloodwork and plan on getting the on cycle bloodwork done also. I understand once the cycle is over, my test will crash, so I need to wait until it normalizes again, what ever normal is for me.

I am sure he will order another blood test (the reason for waiting some time after the cycle) But at least I can prove to him it worked for me. The PCT will kick start my recovery since I will NOT be doing the gel anymore. Even if he prescribes the Gel I will request self injections instead, it just seem easier.

[EthanWS6]

Sam! What's up man? I know we've talked a little about this before but I'm still a little confused.

I'm running a cycle as follows in the Fall:
1-16 Test E 500mg/wk
1-15 Deca 300mg/wk
1-4 anadrol 25 (or 50, not sure yet)mg/wk
also running caber and adex through the cycle. (advice on caber dosage?)
and you mentioned that I should consider running Hcg in a small dose to keep from "crashing" when the deca stops. So, my question is this: How exactly do I mix the Hcg, and what dose should I run through the cycle? The product I purchased is "Pregnyl 5000". I bought two amps, both are 5000 iu's. They both came with a 1ml amp of Solvent (NaCl .9%). So how exactly do I go about mixing it and dosing it out? Also, does it need to be refrigerated once mixed?
Thanks Sam!

-Ethan

[HOOCH256]

Hey Sam kinda another thought on the low sex drive what are your thoughts about taking proviron during PCT? We both are just a lil freaked out by hcg honestly! Just seems like if not done right you could really mess your self up! Anyways from my reading sounds like proviron taken during PCT sounds like the ticket to help out!

HOOCH

[Oldguy45]

I am not ON HRT, officially anyway, as prescribed by a doc. I obtained the gel to see if it would have any effect on me. After doing it for a week I wanted to avoid the mess of daily gel baths, so I wanted to investigate injections. I inquired at the anti-aging sites, submitted my bloodwork to them and got a starter protocol outlined. I didn't buy form them yet very expensive.

If I am doing injections, it would be nice too to achieve some nice gains, get some energy, wood, and just to feel better in general. I have been cautious and reading a lot here, so I can do it the right way. There is SO MUCH information to absorb, one has to ask the questions out loud to make sure they are interpreting the info correctly. I appreciate your experience and your input.

My plan was, after the cycle, and recovery, go back to my doctor or to a new one and explain how much better I felt by doing TRT doses on my own, and see if he will prescribe the stuff to me. That way I won't have to purchase elsewhere. I have the before and after bloodwork and plan on getting the on cycle bloodwork done also. I understand once the cycle is over, my test will crash, so I need to wait until it normalizes again, what ever normal is for me.

I am sure he will order another blood test (the reason for waiting some time after the cycle) But at least I can prove to him it worked for me. The PCT will kick start my recovery since I will NOT be doing the gel anymore. Even if he prescribes the Gel I will request self injections instead, it just seem easier.

[sam1976]

the only info i can find about problems with high DHEA are related to females. maybe someone can chime in with more info on that topic in the thread you created. as far as estradiol, ur right at the top of normal. some guys might experience gyno at that level but it doesnt sound like thats a problem for you. it wouldnt hurt to lower it a little.

[Oldguy45]

What are the optimum levels of DHEA and Estradiol?

[sam1976]

Hey Sam......I was searching for an old post that you put up about how you dose your T3 over like 10 weeks. (?) I dont know if you can do it but can you pm me that link to that post. Thanks Sam!!!

i get this question every once in awhile, so at least for now, i made it a sticky because it's getting harder and harder to find in my old threads. it certainly isnt the only way to run t3, but i've found it to be very very successful for me.

http://juicedmuscle.com/showthread.p...-My-Take-On-T3

[sam1976]

your blood work looks pretty good. test is IMO perfect for replacement therapy. you can stay on the dhea, but i feel that tribulus is pretty useless. it's especially useless if you're getting HRT. the idea is that trib will up regulate test production, but if you're getting exogenous test...enough to push you into the 1000ng/dl range, your balls arent going to be producing much of anything. i'd save my money and energy it takes your body to digest the additional pills and just cut the trib out.

dose on the adex may vary person to person. i dont know anyone who needs more than .5mg EOD for your proposed dose, but i do know some that use less. start there, and if you expereince low estrogen, drop it down a little.

since you're on HRT and i assume you'll be going back on it after your cycle, there will be no need for PCT. simply wait 2 wks after last injection and transition back to HRT. you may way to continue running your adex at a slightly higher dose for a bit, to control the possiblility of gyno from hormone flux as the test drops. if during that time, i started feeling a little tenderness in the nipple, i'd add in 10mg of nolvadex 2x a day until things are stable.


one last thing, test e is every so slightly faster than cyp. i'd personally prefer to start with cyp and go to test e. or i'd do 1cc of each EW, using both at once. beleive me, shit goes wrong all time time. wait till you have everything on hand before you start. if you go through the board, you'll see countless guys who made that mistake and paid. i have myself. learn from my mistakes lol!!

OK Sam and anyone else... Here are my latest Labs. Keep in mind I have been on TestoGel for 6 weeks now, didn't think it was working. Also taking 50mg day DHEA 25 and Tribulus

Testosterone Serum 1038 (348-1197)
Testosterone Free 33.9 (6.8-21.5)
DHEA Sulfate 608.2 (88.9-427)
Estradiol 42.5 (7.6-42.6)
PSA 0.5 (0.0-4.0)


is the Estradiol and DHEA being high keeping me form getting the benefit of the free test?

Planned cycle, Do I need to modify? Should I continue the DHEA25 oral and Tribulus while on cycle?

TEST E 250mg- 2x week IM ( I have 5 weeks worth of TEST E on hand and have Test Cyp on order, is it ok to switch)
ARIMIDEX .5mg EOD Oral
HCG 250iu 2x week (day after TEST) SubQ

6-12
Add ANAVAR 50mg ED oral
13-14
OFF
15 Start PCT
15 NOLVADEX 40mg ED 7 days
16-19 NOLVADEX 20mg ED 14 days
20 NOLVADEX 10 mg 7 days

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[sam1976]

yea, thats a major sign of low test. this is sooo common when guys are trying to kick their natural production into gear again. man, i'll tell you...deca is really rough to recover from. it has done a real number on me. hopefully time off of gear will help. hcg would've helped if he ideally ran it at low doses through the cycle. he could try to give some HCG a blast now, say 1000iu several times over a wk or so. stay on the PCT meds and then he'll probably have to run them longer.

Hey Sam,

3wks in my cycle and my gains are good, I'm up almost 10# from just test e and tbol! I'm pumped and can't wait to see more gains! Anyways I've got a question on PCT for a friend and me as well! But he just finished a test e/deca cycle and has been doing nolvadex and anastolzole for the last few weeks but he says his sex drive is way low, is there something to fix this? Like hcg? I'm also curious as I will probly do the same to be certain for my PCT!!

Thanks Sam

[Mighty49er]

Hey Sam......I was searching for an old post that you put up about how you dose your T3 over like 10 weeks. (?) I dont know if you can do it but can you pm me that link to that post. Thanks Sam!!!