2nd cycle: Test E/EQ/Tbol

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

Yeah, I hear ya on the pinning everyday or evey other day, well let's just wait and see how ya do...........

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

I'm sure you know that diet is 90% of the battle mrbig. You can for sure cut on test e, it just would be a little harder than on an ester like prop.

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

You will drop the fat, the thing is how much muscle can you keep.

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

i can stand do lose a few pounds of muscle if i must.

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

i can stand do lose a few pounds of muscle if i must.

Like I said, we'll have to wait and see how ya do. Keep us up to date.

[Big L Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Big L]

Well sounds like you know it all. So goodluck hey lets see a pic to see if you do know it all

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

i didn't say i knew it all. but i've done enough reading on here any many other places to know you do not have to use prop to cut. Its nonsense. to cut or bulk is dependent on your diet. Cmon kid.

[ALEX.18 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ALEX.18]

i didn't say i knew it all. but i've done enough reading on here any many other places to know you do not have to use prop to cut. Its nonsense. to cut or bulk is dependent on your diet. Cmon kid.

Bingoooooooooooooo

[Big L Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Big L]

Personally i dont like propinate and i know we dont need it to cut
Im talking about your calories ive seen to many people cut there calories and they do lose weight and they lose muscle
Just keep an eye on it man I just want everyone to have an open mind

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

My body is weird. If i would intake 3k calories, i would get fat, idc how much gear i'm on. When i'm cutting, i take in 1800 calories. My maintenance is about 2200-2300.

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

My body is weird. If i would intake 3k calories, i would get fat, idc how much gear i'm on. When i'm cutting, i take in 1800 calories. My maintenance is about 2200-2300.

I don't remember did you tell us your height and weight? Cause yeah that low of calories is crazy if your more than 140lbs. They say the average man at 5'9"and 150lbs needs 2000 calories a day to maintain that. I wish I was like you, but my fat ass needs 6000 calories to weigh 220lbs.

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

i'm 5'10" and 220. Yea man, i can't eat 3k cal or i'll get fat. lol.

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

i'm 5'10" and 220. Yea man, i can't eat 3k cal or i'll get fat. lol.

Thats awesome bro, again I have to do 6000 and it's a pain in the ass!!!!!!!!!!

[ALEX.18 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ALEX.18]

I like to go by LBM X 10 for cals to cut. So if you're 220lbs and 14% bf(giving u the benefit of doubt), your LBM would be 190. (220 X .14 = 30, 220 - 30 = 190). 190 X 10 = 1900. Looks like youre right on track, even a little low. Btw, sorry about the math lesson .

Maintenance i just use body weight X 10, and bulking is body weight X 15. Comes out to some nice totals if you do it right.

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

I like that math lesson alex. good stuff.