2nd cycle: Test E/EQ/Tbol

[Big L Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Big L]

Keep it a friendly and honest battle lol
Hey mr big what are you runnin for your next cycle

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

Hey mr big what are you runnin for your next cycle

I'll be doing Andromix, whinny and clen for about 10 weeks.

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

Pip isnt bad. Did right qusd. Pee is normal. Not dead from ot yrt lol.

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

Will post yesterdays stats in a bit. So far so good.

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

bloods



They didnt run my free test. But my lvls are low as shit. Im glad im doing this cycle. Maybe I can kickstart this shit. Got my liver panel done too bc of the tren.

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

Ok update time. gonna be haaded to the gym here in a bit. I'll post my workout after. I've noticed a little bit of the tiredness today. No other sides to be noted. I haven't really noticed much from it as of yet. I feel a bit tighter, but thats about it. We'll see how my workout is today.

pins are going well. Surprisingly no pip from my second pin yet. This is going to be a great cycle!

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

2-19-13 workout

lat pulldown - 12x100, 10x100, 8x120
rows - 12x135, 10x180, 8x205
shoulder press - 12x95, 10x115, 8x135
side lateral raises - 12x15, 10x20, 8x25
tricep pressdown - 12x90, 10x110, 8x130
DB overhead tri ext - 12x50, 10x55, 8x60
crunches - 3 sets of 20
leg raises - 3 sets of 20 (four count)


Was just a regular workout to me. Didn't notice anything crazy.

BW - 222.5

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

I took thursday off. the lethargy of the oral tren got to me. lol

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

Yesterday's workout was a lot better than day one. I'm noticing a lot of strength gains already, but i'm taking it slow so that i don't get another shoulder injury this cycle.

2-22-13

Leg press - 12x315, 10x495, 8x675
leg extension - 20x130, 20x150, 15x170
leg curl - 12x70, 10x90, 8x110
standing calve raises - 12x225, 10x315, 8x405
seated calve raises - 12x135, 10x180, 8x225
Decline bench press - 12x135, 7x225, 5x225
db fly - 12x30, 10x35, 8x40
barbell curl - 12x50, 10x60, 8x70
concentration curl - 12x30, 10x35, 8x40

I definitely noticed a strength increase today. Really great workout.

BW - 225.4 wtf is that shit?!

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

So, i noticed my nips being a little sore yesterday, so i think i'm going to take .5 adex on mon and wed, and then 25mg of asin on fridays. My nips feel good today. what do u guys think? would u do that or just up the adex to like .5 ed

[ALEX.18 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ALEX.18]

So, i noticed my nips being a little sore yesterday, so i think i'm going to take .5 adex on mon and wed, and then 25mg of asin on fridays. My nips feel good today. what do u guys think? would u do that or just up the adex to like .5 ed

How are you taking the adex now?

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

right now the adex is .5mg mwf

[Nature101 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nature101]

Okay sager- Great log so far. Looks like you have a lot of things lined up and dialed in. There is information still missing that may be very beneficial.

I see you have your training days and routine in check. I see you have your diet in check. Gear- check.

My question is..what is your max bench, squat, and deadlift?

There is a specific reason i ask and my next reply will be based on your answer.

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

I haven't maxed in a while to be honest. but based on my currnet lifts and how easily i do them, i'd say my max on bench is between 275 and 300. max on squat is between 315 and 350. Max on deadlift with a hex bar is between 415 and 440.

[Nature101 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nature101]

Based on what you just said- you have more work to do.

You say you are trying to "cut" but how can you cut when you dont know if you are lifting the appropriate weight consistant with cutting? Sure, you are eating to cut but are you lifting that way?

You MUST get your MAX in order to figure out if you are using the appropriate weight to SHRED.

To cut, (IMO) you need to br lifting 3 sets of 20 reps @ 70% of you MAX. So..if your max for bench is 275 then you need 3 sets of 20 reps @ 70% OF 275 ( 20 reps of 195x 3 sets)

For bulking ( which is more like u are doing now) you want to aim closer to 80% max 3 sets of 10-12. and for power/explosive lifting you want 85-90% of your max 4-5 sets 4-6 reps and think "explode"

So...if you safely calculate you max in each of your exercises, times your max by .7- you will get what you should be aiming for on each exercise th CUT.

Do this for 2-3 weeks at a time..then recalculate your max...and adjust your weight accordingly.

Do this for 9-12 week cycle.

So, instead of running a cutters diet, with cutter gear, and a bulkers lift routine...switch the routine to a cut routine- be specific- and you will SHRED.

If you are guessing in regards to your muscular output then you csn guess and maybe cut, maybe not. This takes out the guess work. Be specific and calculated bro!