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    28 years old, 5foot6inches, 190lbs, 12% BF.

    I got my gear from naps much sooner than expected and wanted to log my cycle to hear some opinions and log the progress.

    Cycle Layout:
    Weeks 1-12 750 mg GP Test Enanth per week (split twice a week)
    Weeks 1-12 400 mg GP Tren Enanth per week (split twice a week)
    Weeks 7-12 40mg GP Stan10 per day
    Weeks 1-14 12.5 mg GP Exemestane per day

    PCT- starting 2 weeks after last pin
    Clomid 100mg for week 1, then 50mg for week 2 + 3 (following Sams advice for PCT on this)

    Food- 330g protein, 275g carbs, 41g fat, 2800 Total calories

    Without going into the boring detail of every single meal, Ill give a quick summary. I eat 7 meals a day, plus a post workout shake and one before bed. The only food items I eat are egg whites, lean steak, chicken breast, fish, oats, brown rice, and sweet potatoes. I do have one cup of coffee with breakfast, but I drink it black. I don't have any cheat meals, and its mostly because in the past, it was too easy to keep cheating if I did it once. I know I'm probably going to get some comments about how low my carbs are, in the past that number has been closer to 375-400 g a day, but I honestly want to see if my gains will still be steady with slightly lower carbs. Also in the past my calories have been closer to 3000-3500, but I decided to start with the p/c/f/cal intake and adjust weekly (if needed), depending on my gains and how I feel.


    I did my first set of pins today. 1.5cc of Test in my left quad, and 1cc of Tren in my left delt. I use separate set of pins to draw and inject for each. I use a 20gauge to draw (it seems to be less damaging to the rubber stopper) and I use a 1in 25 gauge for injections. Little soar but nothing to bad.

    As of right now Ill be using my delts, quads, and glutes for the injections. I figure I need atleast two more sites to give the other ones a break. In the past Ive done chest, bis, tris, calfs, and one awkward trap injection. I had bad experiences with soarness at those sites, and I was only injecting 1 cc for the traps and chest and 1/2cc for the smaller muscles.

    So I know this is kinda long but again I've been impressed with the knowledge on this forum, and how careful people are at giving advice here, not wanting people to do something that could hurt them. So with that being said I'm always open to helpful critiques and learning how others choose to do it.
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  • #2
    From the experience I have with the people I work with local who have done tren cycles, even with a caloric surplus body fat seems to just fade away lol One of my closest friends just did a cycle with tren 5 months ago, he started out at 21%bf and eating ~5000 calories per day. By the end of the cycle he had gone down to 11% bf and put on a good amount of size. I know that tren increases your body's "nutrient efficiency" meaning you get more out of what you eat and less will go to waste, but I would still eat more than that if I were running this cycle.

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    • #3
      U got it going on bubba

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      • #4
        It looks good to me, obvious this is not your first or even second cycle, as long as you know whats coming with the Tren you should be ok. I agree with you raising your calories as you go, at 2800 that is really low for the weight that your at now. Good luck, keep us up to date.
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        • #5
          I've read around that keeping your test amount lower then the tren amount greatly decreases your sides. Is that true because I'm thinking of running sust300 with tren e 100

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 1tuffcookie View Post
            I've read around that keeping your test amount lower then the tren amount greatly decreases your sides. Is that true because I'm thinking of running sust300 with tren e 100
            never ran tren so i cant speak from experience but i cant imagine this statement is very accurate? tren is a progestin so it will shut your natural test down harder than test will so test needs to be higher to combat this shutdown. i was always under the impression that you want to have a test base for ALL cycles which means test would be the highest compound mg for mg. the only drug that i know of that you can run at the same mg as test or even a little higher is EQ. but i dont know much about aas so im not too sure
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            • #7
              The rule of thumb is 5:1 Tren is 5 times stronger than test, so what it would look like is 500mg of test and 100mg of tren. This is a starting point.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by MrBig View Post
                The rule of thumb is 5:1 Tren is 5 times stronger than test, so what it would look like is 500mg of test and 100mg of tren. This is a starting point.
                is that for all progestins or just tren? just curious cause im mapping out my 6th cycle with test prop and tren a
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                • #9
                  As far as I know it tren only, now remember this is a starting point it will depend on how you react to thes sides. I did 400mg of tren and my side's where out of control for me. You can add or subtract as needed. Tren A my not give you the same sides that tren E will give, reason tren a is in and out quickly because of the ester of tren a. I don't get the same sides as tren e when I us tren A or maybe I should say that there not as great.
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                  • #10
                    so if i started with 200mg prop and 100mg tren a eod, that would come out to 800 prop and 400 tren. do you think thats too high to start with? im thinking i would rather start high and have to back it down rather than starting low and having to bring it up?
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                    • #11
                      No I think you'll be fine, If you have the sides and there to much for ya you can back down and the tren a will be out of your system in a mater of a few days. If you where starting that cycle with tren e, I would rather see you start with, 100-200mg a week. Why, because if you have any sides from the E ester it'll take days to weeks to subside. You all have to remember everyone reacts differently you may only have a few issues. I think it was xamo that once side he didn't have or they where low sides from tren, not sure if it was tren e or tren a he used.
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                      • #12
                        Thats alot of prop Look at all the people that are happy with andromix thats only 50mg prop times that by 7 thats 350mg aweek and people getting great results. 200 mgs of prop in one injection would definetly hurt me
                        Im not one to say 800 is to much but it is kinda high

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                        • #13
                          Yeah it maybe a lot for ALEX, I'm not sure what number cycle he's on. My last cut cycle was the Gen Shi CUT STACK 750 which has Testosterone Propionate: 50mg, Drostanolone Propionate: 50mg and Trenbolone Acetate: 50mg. I did 1cc eod with great results.
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                          • #14
                            well im about to start my 5th cycle with test e & prop combining for 800mg test a week with 600mg EQ. the next cycle with tren a will be my 6th

                            i just figured i would go with the separate compounds first to see how my body reacts to each. if i can handle them, ill get the a mix next time. also, wouldnt you want to run extra test while on the a mix to keep test levels higher than anything else?

                            by the way, consider this thread hi jacked charliebron. sorry bout that haha
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                            • #15
                              The only thing wrong with that ALEX is on your tren cycle your gona miss out on masteron. That is the icing on the cake But you can add that in your next next next cycle.

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