First cycle Help - 196 12% bf

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

You think? That was actually my only drawback to doing just a test cycle. I knew it takes a while for that cycle to start rly showing. I don't want to go hardcore on my first cycle. I def agree with Sam when he says to only use one new compound at a time. What would the Benefits and drawbacks be to adding a jump start in?

[Big_Ant Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Big_Ant]

if you want to take something that will make you ripped on a "diet", halotestin is my favorite drug...nothing gets you stronger or cut that halo...I always looked my best on halo...it really is not as bad as everyone says...if you just take 20-30mg for 5 or 6 weeks...you will be very impressed with the results as well as everyone who looks at you...I have only used stenox and it is strong shit, I always use a test base also...

[xamo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xamo]

You think? That was actually my only drawback to doing just a test cycle. I knew it takes a while for that cycle to start rly showing. I don't want to go hardcore on my first cycle. I def agree with Sam when he says to only use one new compound at a time. What would the Benefits and drawbacks be to adding a jump start in?

You could do what most would recommend, add Dbol or tbol the first five weeks?

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

i guess my real question, is how synergistic will the compounds work together those first 5 weeks? Or will i just see the effects of dbol the first 5 weeks since the test will take about that long to "kick in"? I want to make sure i'm as learned as i can be before i do this cycle. I want the most gains as i can get with the least amount of sides. I love my little boys, and i don't wanna break em 8)

[xamo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xamo]

Dbol will add protein synthesis.. but Dbol has a short life and you do it just the time for the test to kick in

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

I'll probably add some dbol in then. either 40mg or 30mg ed for the first 5 weeks

[xamo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xamo]

30mg will be fine, spread throughout the day

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

Alright. Cycle is decided. Been reading and got some good info from all you guys.

12 Week Test Cycle:
Test E 500mg per week. Two shots
Arimidex .5mg Eod (or E3d depending on how i react)
Dbol 40mg Ed Weeks 1-5

PCT - Nolvadex 40/20/20/10

Is nolva going to be good enough solo? I'm hearing so much on HCG, and it seems like it would be great to add into a pct. Also, should i continue taking the Arimidex all the way to week 14 when i start my pct? Or should you stop it week 12? And of course i will be running Liver support as well since i'm taking dbol now.

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

Alright. Cycle is decided. Been reading and got some good info from all you guys.

12 Week Test Cycle:
Test E 500mg per week. Two shots
Arimidex .5mg Eod (or E3d depending on how i react)
Dbol 40mg Ed Weeks 1-5

PCT - Nolvadex 40/20/20/10

Is nolva going to be good enough solo? I'm hearing so much on HCG, and it seems like it would be great to add into a pct. Also, should i continue taking the Arimidex all the way to week 14 when i start my pct? Or should you stop it week 12? And of course i will be running Liver support as well since i'm taking dbol now.

Nice, let us kmow how it works for ya.

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

do you have any input on the last part of that post? do you stop the adex at week 12? or do you continue it to still keep the estrogen in check.?
?

[xamo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xamo]

that really depends on you and how you feel...

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

Another Question. I know its more about Macro's and there is a section, but i already had this thread here. if need be though, i'll put it in the nutrition section.

Are these macro's good for my cycle more leaning toward lean mass building?

Total Cal Per Day = 2000
Protein - 250g
Carb - 150g
Fat - 44g

5 meals per day, 400 cal's each. My goal is to build lean muscle, and really trying to eliminate excess fat gains. do you think that is within reach with this ration of macro's?

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

Remember, my cycle is as follows:

12-14 weeks:
500mg Test E, 2 times a week
Tbol 60mg ed weeks 1-5
Arimidex .5mg eod

PCT Nolva 40/20/20/10

[xamo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xamo]

IMO that's extremely low...you can get a general idea through macros but what you need depends more on your genetics, metabolism, as well as activity level. IMO start at 2600 calories minimum then depending on the results you get tweak it to your needs. It's easy to achieve lean mass, just eat clean. What you eat will determine what kind of mass you'll gain.

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

So Start more like this then?

2600 cal/day
Protein = 227g
Carbs = 292g
Fat = 57g