Third cycle, something new..?

[Thedub3 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Thedub3]

Hey guys,

Been away for a while due to work and school. Still been lurking and seeing all of the regulars post, but haven't had time until today to finally make a thread! Now that I am done with Nursing School for the summer I am looking to hop on the bicycle again for a nice ride!

I have run two successful cycles thus far. Both of these cycles were identical to one another, consisting of 500mg/week of GP Test E week 1-12 and week 1-5 consisted of the Test E along with 30mg/day of GP dbol.

After my last pin week 12, I took a two week break from the supplements and than started GP Nolva @40mg for 4 weeks. After each cycle I had gained lean mass and some fat due to bulking each time. Strength gains were great as well. After my second cycle I had blood work done and my test levels were good, within normal range, cholesterol was moderately high, which I think was from eating eggs daily for years so I switched to whites and it has already lowered. Other than that everything is great.

I am looking to run Test Prop. My goal this cycle is a bit different since I am looking to keep leaning out, but put on a bit of mass. I have been doing cardio a few times a week and leaning out a bit, still eating a good amount, but staying near or below maintenance so I can drop a couple of pounds.

I was thinking of running GP Test Prop @ 150mg EOD. Don't want to start too high, so I figured 150 EOD was okay to start with. I am not sure if I should run something else with it or not. I was hoping someone could possibly give me some input. I'd appreciate any feedback you guys have to give! Thanks guys.

[Big L Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Big L]

Im not into test prop. For me the pip isnt worth it
But for lean mass gains i love test cyp and eq
Not sure if you like that idea but its worth looking into only problem is to get good gains you should run eq at 600 mg aweek
Didnt mean to take you off ur idea of propinate

[Thedub3 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Thedub3]

Im not into test prop. For me the pip isnt worth it
But for lean mass gains i love test cyp and eq
Not sure if you like that idea but its worth looking into only problem is to get good gains you should run eq at 600 mg aweek
Didnt mean to take you off ur idea of propinate

Thanks for the reply man...I have talked to some guys at the gym that said the same thing about prop..they ran cyp or enth with eq and liked it a lot. I would be real interested in that, so you would run test cyp @ 500mg like I did the previous two times and eq @ 600mg a week?

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bumping the thread for more input! want to place my order this week since it looks like GP test cyp will be half price!
As of now I am thinking..

Test Cyp week 1-12 @ 500mg/week (250mg Sunday/250mg Wednesday.
EQ week 1-8 @600mg/week (300mg Monday/300mg Thursday.
EQ week 9-12 @400mg/week (200mg Monday/200mg Thursday.

2 week break from last pin and then Clomid @ 150mg for 2 weeks then 100mg for 2 weeks.

I am planning on using ADEX throughout the cycle as well.

Is HCG necessary? I have never used it before and have recovered well after my previous two cycles.

I'm ready to get the ball rolling! Let me know what you guys think about this cycle layout. Thanks

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

Your cardio and diet will dictate what happens on that cycle, you should do well.

[Thedub3 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Thedub3]

Your cardio and diet will dictate what happens on that cycle, you should do well.

Thanks for your response man....If i am running this cycle to lean up but add some mass, you think this is a good setup? Obviously diet will be on point with protein carbs and fats, and the cardio will be absolutely no issue, been doing great with it so far, and now that school is done for summer I have plenty of time to get in the gym to train once again....do you have any advice or tweaks to the cycle?

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

You have to remember that as you continue to use gear your body will not respond as it did on your first cycle. The only way to keep gear usage low is to make sure you take time in between cycles. I've been using gear on and off for a long time and I try to keep it to 1g. or lower a week. Everything looks good, I'm doing the GP Andromix with a slightly higher caloric intake and I'm losing fat and putting on a few lbs of muscle at the same time. Good luck brother

[Thedub3 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Thedub3]

You have to remember that as you continue to use gear your body will not respond as it did on your first cycle. The only way to keep gear usage low is to make sure you take time in between cycles. I've been using gear on and off for a long time and I try to keep it to 1g. or lower a week. Everything looks good, I'm doing the GP Andromix with a slightly higher caloric intake and I'm losing fat and putting on a few lbs of muscle at the same time. Good luck brother

Thanks man, I am definitely trying to keep dosages low, especially since this is only my third cycle. I did not respond as well on my second cycle as i did my first, but I feel that since I am switching from test E to test cyp, I can keep the dosage at 500mg since it is a different testosterone in my system. Hopefully the EQ will help lean me out as well since that is something new I am adding instead of the DBOL.

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Another forum I am a member had a few guys telling me to drop the EQ and only use that for 18week cycles or longer...what do you guys think? Should I replace it with some tren? Id like to place my order for the rest of the stuff in the next few days so any input would be great

[ALEX.18 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ALEX.18]

Personally i like prop better than enanthate or cyp. Dont knock it till u try it bro, like fat chicks. Haha just messin. But seriously, go with eq @ no less than 600mg for no shorter than 15 weeks. Your original plan of 150mg eod with the prop sounds good too. Just add your eq on every other prop shot to keep things simple. Now, it does hurt but you can get past it imo

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Personally i like prop better than enanthate or cyp. Dont knock it till u try it bro, like fat chicks. Haha just messin. But seriously, go with eq @ no less than 600mg for no shorter than 15 weeks. Your original plan of 150mg eod with the prop sounds good too. Just add your eq on every other prop shot to keep things simple. Now, it does hurt but you can get past it imo

hey bro, good to see you still posting here. Now if my diet is on point will there be much of a difference between using the prop and cyp? I am assuming I may retain more water with cyp though. I just got back from the gym and I was talking to some guys. They are saying use sust, or deca with test, now I'm conflicted!

[ALEX.18 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ALEX.18]

Your goals and wanted results are dependant on what you use. Things like deca and cyp will put on more bloat than test and eq. Then again, so will your diet. Alot of carbs and sodium will cause u to hold water no matter what gear you use. If youre like me (and mostly everyone who isnt a pro who have "seasons" dedicated to each) you just want to lose fat AND build muscle. This will all depend on your diet which you already know. The type of training you do will impact your results tremendously also. I believe a lot of people discount the type of training we do in regards to reaching our goals. I think there is training to lose far and training to build muscle. Im sure someone will come in here and disagree with everything i just said but dont forget, its just my OPINION

[Big L Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Big L]

If your worried about alittle bloat from cyp then scratch the deca idea
If thats you in your avatar you will be fine with cyp and eq as long as you remmember what alex said about watching ur sodium and diet

[ALEX.18 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ALEX.18]

Like i said, EQ does take some time to kick in so if you wanted to stay to a shorter cycle like 12 weeks or less, maybe go with some NPP. EQ needs at least 15 weeks

[Thedub3 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Thedub3]

If your worried about alittle bloat from cyp then scratch the deca idea
If thats you in your avatar you will be fine with cyp and eq as long as you remmember what alex said about watching ur sodium and diet

yeah thats me in the avi..I am a bit bigger now and just about as lean, maybe a bit leaner than that...If I am not sure about running a 16+wk cycle, do you have any suggestions of something else I could use along with the Test Cyp