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i have summer cutting cycle coming after 20 days
for now i decide:
clen 2 days on 2 days off
ephedrine 2 days on ( when im off from clen ) 2 days off
week 1-7 tren a 75mgED
week 1-7 masteron 100mg ED
week 1-7 Test prop 150mg ED
hgh 8iu ED
t3 25mcg ED
adex 0.5mg EOD
also i have orals like : anavar,stanozlol and turinabol,i wonder wich one to use from them
second question is : i aways had problems with the high estrogen,every time my nips start to hurt and i use nolvadex to combat it,now i want to keep the estrogen at minimal and ill add adex,also i was thinking to skip the test prop,i know its bad idea but thats the only way for minimal estrogen and water retention, what do u suggest? skip the test,lower the dose or just use something more strong like letro ?
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Originally posted by orlandoguy407 View PostSam is 10 weeks enough time between 12 week cycles if I feel fine? I know the basic rule of thumb is time on=time off but I want to finish my next cycle before a particular date? The first cycle was a SUS 500mg a week my next cycle will be prop and tren. Thanks
at the end of the day, you can do it. you can do whatever you want. you really have to ask yourself what is important though and what are you willing to sacrifice. for a guy in his 20's, who is trying to compete on the local level, there may a lot more to lose then a guy in his 40's who may qualify for HRT anyway. you really could come out of things fine, but IMO, i really dont think any of us who are using AAS are really ever going to function exactly the same after cycling on and off for years. just my opinion. PCT helps but i dont think it is a 100% guaranteeif you are new to the board, please take a minute to read the rules...CLICK HERE
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i would personally add winny to that for about the last 4-5 wks around 50 mg, if i were to pick an oral. personally, i would get more test and run it for a few wks longer. 7 wks isnt a lot of time to cut. i start with just test to cut and add the hardeners towards the second half, so just food for thought...
1-12
test prop
adex
hgh
t3
6-12
tren
mast
8-12
winny
just the way i'd do it. give myself more time to lean down and then add more in as i go to bring everything together.
as far as estrogen, believe me, running adex at .5mg EOD will keep your etrogen very very low. you wont have any estrogen problems at that dose.
as far as the clen, i think you have the right general idea about taking time off but its better run for 2 wks at a time. it has a 2 day halflife, so if you take it for 2 days on, 2 off, it never really leaves your system, so you wont really get a rest from it.
Originally posted by IMTH View Posti have summer cutting cycle coming after 20 days
for now i decide:
clen 2 days on 2 days off
ephedrine 2 days on ( when im off from clen ) 2 days off
week 1-7 tren a 75mgED
week 1-7 masteron 100mg ED
week 1-7 Test prop 150mg ED
hgh 8iu ED
t3 25mcg ED
adex 0.5mg EOD
also i have orals like : anavar,stanozlol and turinabol,i wonder wich one to use from them
second question is : i aways had problems with the high estrogen,every time my nips start to hurt and i use nolvadex to combat it,now i want to keep the estrogen at minimal and ill add adex,also i was thinking to skip the test prop,i know its bad idea but thats the only way for minimal estrogen and water retention, what do u suggest? skip the test,lower the dose or just use something more strong like letro ?if you are new to the board, please take a minute to read the rules...CLICK HERE
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any MD can do blood work for you. as far as how cool they are about you using gear...well, each MD is different. without insurance, blood work can get expensive. each test is priced differently. with insurance it is of course cheaper, but there is more of a paper trail that can haunt you later. personally, i use insurance and i have never had a problem. there are services available to have blood work done through the mail. i believe we talked a little about it within the first 4-5 pages of this thread.if you are new to the board, please take a minute to read the rules...CLICK HERE
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Hey Sam I am 30 yo 6ft 222-230lbs. I am looking to lose as much fat and build as much LEAN muscle as possible. Ideally I would like to be 190-200lbs and as shredded as possible. Dont want to look like an NFL player either. My shoulders are very wide and so is my chest plate.
My workouts currently start with 30 min on the cybex or eliptical and I also try do do as many push-ups and sit ups as possible. I usually do 1-2 body parts per workout 4 sets and 12 reps minumum. Usually 4 workouts per body part.
Any suggestions? I have done winny and clen a few times in the past
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Hey Sam, I getting my workout routine ready for my next cycle.......On my last cycle i was doing 5 day split a usually like this
day 1---chest/a little tri---
day 2---back/a little bi---
day 3 legs/abs
day 4 shoulders
day 5 arms
rest 2 days or rest 1 day sometime in the week and then another rest day at the end
but since i ended my last cycle i changed it up to a 3 day a week split which i hate cuz i luv lifting just thought it would be good to rest and change it up some and since i wasn't on gear my muscles dont recover as fast.
My question is on my next cycle what should my split look like and how many sets/reps do you usally do on a cycle...i think i was doing way to many and was in the gym for 2 hours each day.
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hey bro, no matter what you do, it's going to come down to diet. steroids, as you know, aren't going to burn any fat or make you any leaner. i use a low carb, high protein, low fat approach. making sure i am getting 350g proein a day, i figure out how many carbs i'm eating and slowly pull them out, while keeping fats very low. i do my cardio first thing in the morning, on empty. i start at 30 min and add more as needed. if i need a second session, i do it after training. never do cardio before weight lifting. the cardio will have already broke you down to an extent. you wont be quite as strong. you'll be short on nutrients to protect your muscle tissue.
Originally posted by Mastermind View PostHey Sam I am 30 yo 6ft 222-230lbs. I am looking to lose as much fat and build as much LEAN muscle as possible. Ideally I would like to be 190-200lbs and as shredded as possible. Dont want to look like an NFL player either. My shoulders are very wide and so is my chest plate.
My workouts currently start with 30 min on the cybex or eliptical and I also try do do as many push-ups and sit ups as possible. I usually do 1-2 body parts per workout 4 sets and 12 reps minumum. Usually 4 workouts per body part.
Any suggestions? I have done winny and clen a few times in the pastif you are new to the board, please take a minute to read the rules...CLICK HERE
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