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[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

I have a friend who's ran a decent amount of cycles and seems to throw caution to the wind when it comes to AAS. He wants to run oral tren at the end of his cycle for 3 weeks or so. He also plans on running a dbol kickstart for 4-5 weeks on a ~14 week cycle of test. I know this stuff is liver toxic and tried to steer him away from it but he seems set on it. Really how liver toxic is it? Do you think he'll be ok running the recommended dosage of 500mcg for 3 weeks? and are the gains worth it? I've heard of people getting jaundice after just 2-3 weeks.

it's going to come down to dose and the health of the person taking it. yes, oral tren is a very strong drug with some of the most nasty side effects of any AAS, but still, i think it's reputation is a little worse than how bad it actually is.

if he's starting out the cycle with dbol for several wks, then 8 or so wks later throwing in the tren, he's got enough of a break between the orals. as long as he keeps the dose to 500mcg or so, he should be good. 750mch is about the max i think any recreactional lifter should go to, though i know large competitors that have use 1 to 1.5mg. these are very big guys.

[merz Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close merz]

with your history, the doses look good then.

you have test 3 250, test cyp 200, and deca 250, right. so every wk, you want to take 2cc test e, 2 cc deca, and 1/2cc cyp. you could do 2 injects. 1 would be 2cc and the other 2.5cc. or you could break it down further and do mon, wed, fri. that would work too. it doesn;t matter if every shot isn;t exactly the same amount of cc, just as long as you get it all in every wk and try to keep it somewhat evenly spread. i dont like going over 2cc's in my delt now days. 1.5 is a pretty good limit for delts IMO. i would use, at least, delts and glutes, but if you do quads, i would throw them in too. that way, each site gets lots of rest.

btw, as far as you r cycle history, there is no pill form of deca

Awesome, thank you so much and sorry for not checking in sooner, been real busy!! I will keep you posted and keep reading your thread here!! Thanks again!!

[1 More_Rep Member Find all posts View Profile Close 1 More_Rep]

Hey Sam need some input for my first cycle of real gear! I've used my fair share of pro-hormones in the past, so I feel it's time for the next step. I've come up with a cycle (that in my opinion looks pretty solid) but if I can get some input on what you all think it would be much appreciated.

In this cycle (going to run in October) I'm looking to put on some quality lean mass (lean bulk for the most part) Increasing my calories yet keeping them clean. My current stats are 5'10 198lbs. 34 years of age been lifting on and off since I was 14 been lifting continuously for the last 5 years, didn't use my first pro-hormone until I was 30.


So here's what I'm looking at:

GP Test CYP 250
weeks 1-10 500mg/ week

GP Dbol
weeks 1-4 30mg/ day

GP Anavar
weeks 5-10 60mg/ day

Pct will consist of clomid dosed 50/50/50/50

And I was thinking of taking 10mg of nolva before bed while on cycle, I'm not prone to gyno but one can never be to careful. (any thoughts)?

Also this will be my first time pinning, a little nervous about the whole process I was thinking that my glutes would be the best spot to pin but any pointers or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

no need for the anavar. oral steroids cause a lot of issues that can be avoided by using injects. the dbol serves the purpose of kickstarting your cycle, so you can start making gains and holding some water while you wiat for the test to kick in. you dont want to tax your liver and your blood lipids like that for 10 wks straight by using orals so long. plus, you really wont need the var. your gains will be very good, as long as your diet and training are on point.

instead of nolva, a small amount of adex will overall be better. it'll stop some of the conversion of test to estrogen controling gyno issues. .5mg every 2 to 3 days. just a little is all you should need. if you feel gyno coming on from the dbol, up it a little. pct starts 2 wks after last inject

[1 More_Rep Member Find all posts View Profile Close 1 More_Rep]

no need for the anavar. oral steroids cause a lot of issues that can be avoided by using injects. the dbol serves the purpose of kickstarting your cycle, so you can start making gains and holding some water while you wiat for the test to kick in. you dont want to tax your liver and your blood lipids like that for 10 wks straight by using orals so long. plus, you really wont need the var. your gains will be very good, as long as your diet and training are on point.

instead of nolva, a small amount of adex will overall be better. it'll stop some of the conversion of test to estrogen controling gyno issues. .5mg every 2 to 3 days. just a little is all you should need. if you feel gyno coming on from the dbol, up it a little. pct starts 2 wks after last inject

Appreciate the input Sam.

[deathb4wkness Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close deathb4wkness]

Sam, I love every bit of information that you post! You are truly inspiring my man!
I have a question for you? I am competing in my first show and currently taking test prop at 700mg/week, tren acetate at 500mg/week and masteron at 700mg/week. I was wondering what your thoughts were on dropping all test before the show as to avoid any water retention? I know you looked absolutely shredded at your show and appreciate any advice you have to give! Have a great day sir! Also, just a note on myself.... I am 22, yes very young. I love every aspect of the "life" that is bodybuilding. For me, it transcends the gym. The sacrifice, determination, and will power that you must master applies to every single area in my life, and for that and the fact that I want to look like a superhero, I am truly in love with the sport! My diet is on point year round, never cheat, always clean, always hungry for more information as to training techniques, nutrition strategies, supplement regimens, to improve and take a step closer to achieving my goals!
Thank you for your time good sir, I look forward to hearing back from you!!!!

[sebaco2011 Member Find all posts View Profile Close sebaco2011]

Sam my next cycle that is pretty much just a trial , is the gp oral tren I plan on running 3 weeks of it 250 mcg day the first week and adjusint from there and run a 3 week cycle then pct with nolva. I just want to see the gains without test or any other orals. My goal is going to be primarily strength gains but wouldn't mind gaining weight and losing body fat like iv heard many people claim while on tren. My question is if im planning on doing this for my goal would I eat somewhat of a bulking diet but make it less calories maybe 500-100 above maintenance, having a good workout regimen as well of course ( of course all healthy and clean foods ) , as well as I dont plan on doing any cardio ( I know it would be smart to add but I honestly need a break from it ), so do you think I can accomplish my goals with the above stated? Right now im sitting at 212 pounds and 13% bodyfat. 22 years old been training for about 7 years. What kind of strength gains would I experience compared to those of methano ? as well as like I stated in terms of lean bulking .

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

i like to follow the approach that dave palumbo uses. he says something along the line of 'if you're looking good, don't make any dramatic changes at the end'. i run my test all the way into the show. maybe i won't use it the last couple days but thats just to reduce injection volume. be careful injecting near the end and dont put too much oil in one place or you may distort the muscle. but still, make sure you keep that tren and mast coming. about 3 wks out, i bump the adex up from .5 EOD to ED. between that and water manipulation, i have come in looking bone dry. everyone works slightly different though. this is just what works for me.

Sam, I love every bit of information that you post! You are truly inspiring my man!
I have a question for you? I am competing in my first show and currently taking test prop at 700mg/week, tren acetate at 500mg/week and masteron at 700mg/week. I was wondering what your thoughts were on dropping all test before the show as to avoid any water retention? I know you looked absolutely shredded at your show and appreciate any advice you have to give! Have a great day sir! Also, just a note on myself.... I am 22, yes very young. I love every aspect of the "life" that is bodybuilding. For me, it transcends the gym. The sacrifice, determination, and will power that you must master applies to every single area in my life, and for that and the fact that I want to look like a superhero, I am truly in love with the sport! My diet is on point year round, never cheat, always clean, always hungry for more information as to training techniques, nutrition strategies, supplement regimens, to improve and take a step closer to achieving my goals!
Thank you for your time good sir, I look forward to hearing back from you!!!!

[Joey Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Joey]

Sam what do you think about a test enathate, tren, d-boll cycle?

[lancer55 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close lancer55]

Hey there Sam I was wondering if you knew the answer to this. I have done dieselbolan v1 and v2 each 3 times, two beastdrol/DMT cycles, 1 solo tren tfo and a 2 solo beastdrol cycles as well, and several pro hormones before those. They are legal clones not sure if your familiar with these but basically I ran 4 DMT cycles 5 superdrol cycles 3 max lmg cycles 3 tren cycles these were all orals that I have used over the last 3 years.

Question is should I use Test only, thats what first time users use due to receptors being fresh but since I ran all those other hormones my receptors would not be fresh right? I am assuming Test only would not work for me because of the other hormones, if thats the case should I kickstart with dbol and or stack it with deca? Thanks

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

i can't think of a reason in the world to not use test. this isn't a wise idea. before you go further, you should take some time to rethink that angle. either way, i dont think you'll gain much in 3 wks. you will probably get much stronger while you're on it, but not as much as if you had the synergy from test. oral tren is more of an 'icing on the cake' in a longer cycle. you can only gain or lose so much in 3 wks

Sam my next cycle that is pretty much just a trial , is the gp oral tren I plan on running 3 weeks of it 250 mcg day the first week and adjusint from there and run a 3 week cycle then pct with nolva. I just want to see the gains without test or any other orals. My goal is going to be primarily strength gains but wouldn't mind gaining weight and losing body fat like iv heard many people claim while on tren. My question is if im planning on doing this for my goal would I eat somewhat of a bulking diet but make it less calories maybe 500-100 above maintenance, having a good workout regimen as well of course ( of course all healthy and clean foods ) , as well as I dont plan on doing any cardio ( I know it would be smart to add but I honestly need a break from it ), so do you think I can accomplish my goals with the above stated? Right now im sitting at 212 pounds and 13% bodyfat. 22 years old been training for about 7 years. What kind of strength gains would I experience compared to those of methano ? as well as like I stated in terms of lean bulking .

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

Sam what do you think about a test enathate, tren, d-boll cycle?

for a more experienced user, i think this is a great cycle. very good strength.

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

sounds like you have a good amount of experience. as i'm sure you know, many of the prohormones out there are really steroids. i would still do test only...possibly add a kickstart of dbol. heres why. whenever you start a new drug, you won't know how your body will respond to it. if you are to take several new drugs at once, you'd never know what drugs worked. if you get side effects, you won't know what drug the side effects came from. by the way, if you do a dbol kick start with your test and find issues in the first 2 wks, you can be sure it was from the dbol as the test has not kicked in yet.

Hey there Sam I was wondering if you knew the answer to this. I have done dieselbolan v1 and v2 each 3 times, two beastdrol/DMT cycles, 1 solo tren tfo and a 2 solo beastdrol cycles as well, and several pro hormones before those. They are legal clones not sure if your familiar with these but basically I ran 4 DMT cycles 5 superdrol cycles 3 max lmg cycles 3 tren cycles these were all orals that I have used over the last 3 years.

Question is should I use Test only, thats what first time users use due to receptors being fresh but since I ran all those other hormones my receptors would not be fresh right? I am assuming Test only would not work for me because of the other hormones, if thats the case should I kickstart with dbol and or stack it with deca? Thanks

[Steelworker1 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Steelworker1]

Hey Sam, I'm new to this site but not at all new to gear and training. Just wanted to see what you thought about my upcoming cycle, I've got 2 laid out and wanted to see what u thought


Well after getting everything in, I'm considering stretching out my cycle just a bit. Wanted to get everyones thought on it.

Option #1On cycle
Week 1-16 test enath 600 mg (300 mon and 300 thurs)
Week 3-13 tren ace 300mg (100 mon,wed,and fri)
Week 1-4 dbol 50mg ED
Week 10-14 Winny 50mg ED
Weeks 5-14 Hcg 250iu 2x a week
I take B complex, multi v, glutamine, fish oil, d vitamin,KreAlkalyn(creatine),Amino Fuel daily
Need2guard daily

PCT
Phytoserms 347
Forma stanzol
GP Exemestane 12.5 EOD
Ancient Strength

Have research Prami and plenty of Aromasin on hand if needed during cycle

Or Do you guys like the previous layout better-

Option #2On cycle
Week 1-12 test enath 600 mg (300 mon and 300 thurs)
Week 1-10 tren ace 300mg (100 mon,wed,and fri)
Week 1-4 dbol 50mg ED
Weeks 3-12 Hcg 250iu twice a week
I take B complex, multi v, glutamine, fish oil, d vitamin KreAlkalyn(creatine),Amino Fuel daily
Need2guard daily

PCT
Phytoserms 347
Forma Stanazol
Ancient strength

Have research Prami and plenty of Aromasin on hand if needed during cycle

Let me know what you think

[bigbilly365 Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbilly365]

Hi sam i wanted to take Dianabol for 4 weeks 30mg everyday if im worried about gyno or going bald would u reccomend arimidex at .5 every other day?or wat would u suggest im a cautious type of person.