My first Cycle

[centering Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close centering]

This will be my first cycle of AAS.
35 Yrs old
6'1'' 190 lbs (approx. 20% bf, guessing)
(will bring my bf% down more before I actually begin)
I've been exercising/working out in some form off and on for most of my life.

Would like some of the more experienced pros to take a look and comment. I want to keep estrogenic sides to a minimum and keep as much of my gains as possible after.

Week
1-12 Sustanon 250 @ 500mg per week
3-16 Adex @ .25mg E3D
4 Days after last pinn start HCG @ 1000iu for 10 days
15-16 Nolva @ 20mg ed & Clomid @ 50mg ed (optional)
17-19 Nolva @ 10mg ed & Clomid @ 25mg ed for weeks 17-18 (optional)

Any supplements I should be using during?

Diet: I want a very clean, as much lean mass gain as possible with as little fat as possible.
3500 Calories (40%protein-40%carbs-20%fat ratio, split into 5-6 meals per day)
Calories will increase as lean mass increases.

[xamo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xamo]

Honestly as far as supplements are concerned... quality protein shakes are a must, especially if like me you don't have time to cook every single meal...glutamine is a must... and BCAAs in general... look into SciVation Xtend- I found this product to be amazing.



IMO HCG isn't necessary.. get your hands on a supp nat test booster... it'll do the same really..

I'm not a pro, I guess I can consider myself intermediate now... but there are many pros that will help you here- stick around as well there are many useful information on here. The community is great.

[ODB Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ODB]

pretty good plan.
IMO - I would not use Sust for my 1st cycle - variable esters + absorption times make things a little more complex for a beginner (I prefer Cyp or E )
1 milliliter of Sustanon 250 Contains:
30 mgs Testosterone Propionate
60mgs testosterone Phenylpropionate
60mgs testosterone Isocaproate
100mgs testosterone Decanoate -n

I've done HCG both ways during cycle + after cycle + I definitely prefer it during cycle (wk 2-15 @ 250ius wk)

I agree w/xamo BCaa's + be ready to eat more.

I can't push this enough get a blood test b4 u start, mid cycle + 2 weeks after PCT - this information will be very valuable to u.

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

I am pretty darn grateful for the info and the advice i've been given on here so far. I would def take these guys' advice.

My cycle is this:


12 week cycle
500mg test e, pin 2 times a week
tbol 40mg first week, 60mg for next 4 weeks
adex .5mg eod

pct = Asin @ 25/25/12.5/12.5
Nolva @ 40/40/20/20/10
Bioforge - running 2 bottles, 8 weeks

From all the advice everyone has given me, i feel i'm ready and quite excited for this cycle. Its my first. There is a ton of info in the "ask sam" thread. Def do some reading in there as well.

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

ODB, where do u get ur bloods done? Do u go to ur fam doc? or do u have a 3rd party place do it? I need to get mine done here, i'm going to be starting my cycle in less than a month.....well, ass soon as it gets here ~16 days.

[ODB Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ODB]

centering don't call the Faa this is friendly Hi-Jacking

ODB, where do u get ur bloods done? Do u go to ur fam doc? or do u have a 3rd party place do it? I need to get mine done here, i'm going to be starting my cycle in less than a month.....well, ass soon as it gets here ~16 days.

it depends on ur state some can walk in to labcorp or any lab + order them for aprx $50-$60. I do my blood thru my Doc but I also do saliva for free-Testosterone sometimes also - its cheap $35 buy test kit on line. Blood will test ur liver values,cholesterol + Total Test. Saliva test Free-Testosterone.

What are free and bioavailable testosterone?

Testosterone is present in the blood as "free" testosterone (1-4%) or bound testosterone. The latter may be loosely bound to albumin, a serum protein, or bound to a specific binding protein called Sex Steroid Binding Globulin (SSBG) or Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG). The binding between testosterone and albumin is not very strong and is easily reversed; so the term bioavailable testosterone (BAT) refers to the sum of free testosterone plus albumin-bound testosterone. Alternatively, it is the fraction of circulating testosterone that is not bound to SHBG. It is suggested that BAT represents the fraction of circulating testosterone that readily enters cells and better reflects the bioactivity of testosterone than does the simple measurement of serum total testosterone. Also, varying levels of SHBG can result in inaccurate measurements of BAT. Decreased SHBG levels can be seen in obesity, hypothyroidism, androgen use, and nephritic syndrome. Increased levels are seen in cirrhosis, hyperthyroidism, and estrogen use. In these situations, measurement of free testosterone may be more useful. However, technically, free testosterone is difficult to measure accurately.

[centering Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close centering]

pretty good plan.
IMO - I would not use Sust for my 1st cycle - variable esters + absorption times make things a little more complex for a beginner (I prefer Cyp or E )
1 milliliter of Sustanon 250 Contains:
30 mgs Testosterone Propionate
60mgs testosterone Phenylpropionate
60mgs testosterone Isocaproate
100mgs testosterone Decanoate -n

I've done HCG both ways during cycle + after cycle + I definitely prefer it during cycle (wk 2-15 @ 250ius wk)

I agree w/xamo BCaa's + be ready to eat more.

I can't push this enough get a blood test b4 u start, mid cycle + 2 weeks after PCT - this information will be very valuable to u.

Using sustanon because it was given to me for free from a trusted source. Cant turn down free gear. So what i layed out would be good for a cycle, estro control during and pct after? Thanks for the advice

[centering Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close centering]

This will be my first cycle of AAS.
35 Yrs old
6'1'' 190 lbs (approx. 20% bf, guessing)
(will bring my bf% down more before I actually begin)
I've been exercising/working out in some form off and on for most of my life.

Would like some of the more experienced pros to take a look and comment. I want to keep estrogenic sides to a minimum and keep as much of my gains as possible after.

Week
1-12 Sustanon 250 @ 500mg per week
3-16 Adex @ .25mg E3D
4 Days after last pinn start HCG @ 1000iu for 10 days
15-16 Nolva @ 20mg ed & Clomid @ 50mg ed (optional)
17-19 Nolva @ 10mg ed & Clomid @ 25mg ed for weeks 17-18 (optional)

Any supplements I should be using during?

Diet: I want a very clean, as much lean mass gain as possible with as little fat as possible.
3500 Calories (40%protein-40%carbs-20%fat ratio, split into 5-6 meals per day)
Calories will increase as lean mass increases.

My Cycle revised:
1-12 Sustanon 250 @ 500mg per week
1-16 Adex @ .25mg E3D
1-16 HCG @ 250iu E3d
15-16 Nolva @ 20mg ed & Clomid @ 50mg ed
17-19 Nolva @ 10mg ed & Clomid @ 25mg ed for weeks 17-18