kicking around ideas with tren...

[bugse2342 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bugse2342]

do you think 250mg of tren ace a wk will be worth it?? just to try it?? i think i may just pickup one bottle of it and see how i react to it. I know the gains would be small, but i want to see if i can handle it.

mast would be my next choice but its not going to provide the gains in muscle or fatloss like tren.

That is goin to be my plan. I am just goiing to run a low dose cycle to see how my body reacts to it. If it works out, i will stack it with some test cyp or maybe sus270 for the next cycle.

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

hey you could try it. less tren equals less sides. at a certain point, it'll also equal less gains though. i'd have to wonder, would a low low dose of tren be as beneficial as a standard dose of another compound? when i run it, i'm going to start with just 50mg EOD. if i'm ok, i'll bump it up to 50mg ED. i dont plan to go higher than that.

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

That is goin to be my plan. I am just goiing to run a low dose cycle to see how my body reacts to it. If it works out, i will stack it with some test cyp or maybe sus270 for the next cycle.

he is running test with it. you need to run test as a base to any cycle bro. but dont just take my word for it. continue reading and reseaching. it'll make sense when you have the info as to why. and beleive me, if you dont run test with tren, when the tren shuts you down, you will feel like total shit. if you're new to gear, start with a low dose test cycle. possibly add a low dose oral kick start. but for now, just keep reading the board and ask questions as you go. tren only is a very bad idea, at any dose

[Gymrat827 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gymrat827]

hey you could try it. less tren equals less sides. at a certain point, it'll also equal less gains though. i'd have to wonder, would a low low dose of tren be as beneficial as a standard dose of another compound? when i run it, i'm going to start with just 50mg EOD. if i'm ok, i'll bump it up to 50mg ED. i dont plan to go higher than that.

if i did 75mg EOD it would be 262mg a wk....i think that would be a good dose to assess if i can use this stuff or not..??..?? but now i am also interested in GP oral tren. i know its toxic as all hell but 750mcg or 1mg shoudnt be too bad.

I also think the oral would clear alot faster than ace if i was getting lots of ill effects......can anyone confirm this??

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

if i did 75mg EOD it would be 262mg a wk....i think that would be a good dose to assess if i can use this stuff or not..??..?? but now i am also interested in GP oral tren. i know its toxic as all hell but 750mcg or 1mg shoudnt be too bad.

I also think the oral would clear alot faster than ace if i was getting lots of ill effects......can anyone confirm this??

lololololol. nooooooo! dont do it bro. oral tren is a whole different animal. side effects are the harshest of all tren. it's like, ummmm...its like tren on steroids lol. and 750mcg to 1mg would be a huge dose for a first timer. hell, thats a pretty big dose for anymore. you can only use OT for around 3 wks at a time. i made it 2 wks, worked up to 750mcg and called it quits when i started getting overly sensitive to heat. i sometimes work in a hot enviorment and i started to stroke out when it heated up. trust me. oral tren is a very advanced drug. and honestly, you'll do better in the long run on ace. you can run it longer to reap more benefits. 75mg to 100mg of tren ace EOD is a pretty standard dose. if you're gonna try it, just go for it. that dose would work well.

[bugse2342 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bugse2342]

Iwas going run it with andro gel and add some proviron into cycle, but if you suggest test cup (which I have available) I will run that. I was trying to save it for another cycle

[Gymrat827 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gymrat827]

Iwas going run it with andro gel and add some proviron into cycle, but if you suggest test cup (which I have available) I will run that. I was trying to save it for another cycle

that wouldnt do dick man......test cyp 500mg 12wks.....add the proviron to that...150mg ED. it will make the test work better and you wont need a AI and be dry

[Gymrat827 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gymrat827]

lololololol. nooooooo! dont do it bro. oral tren is a whole different animal. side effects are the harshest of all tren. it's like, ummmm...its like tren on steroids lol. and 750mcg to 1mg would be a huge dose for a first timer. hell, thats a pretty big dose for anymore. you can only use OT for around 3 wks at a time. i made it 2 wks, worked up to 750mcg and called it quits when i started getting overly sensitive to heat. i sometimes work in a hot enviorment and i started to stroke out when it heated up. trust me. oral tren is a very advanced drug. and honestly, you'll do better in the long run on ace. you can run it longer to reap more benefits. 75mg to 100mg of tren ace EOD is a pretty standard dose. if you're gonna try it, just go for it. that dose would work well.

i have looked into it before...dosing really. and than did a bit today. all the stuff i read was guys taking 1.5-2.5mg ED!!!???

some of it was here to (JM)...?? a bit on ology and other random places. so i figured 750mcg wouldnt be too bad

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

Iwas going run it with andro gel and add some proviron into cycle, but if you suggest test cup (which I have available) I will run that. I was trying to save it for another cycle

save the tren for another cycle. as we've touched on in this thread, tren is a drug that has the potential for many side effects. test only or test with oral kick start is a much safer plan. like i was saying, test should be the base of any cycle. use that first and see how you respond. if you take tren and test together, and you start getting bad side effects, you're going to have a harder time telling what is causing the problem. tren sides and test sides are delt with differently. not to mention, with all the negetive shit that can go along with taking tren, plus the fact that it should be injected ED or at the least EOD, it isnt a great idea for someone who is on their first cycle. a test cycle will actually make you feel good. feel strong. high sex drive. good sense of well being. for a new user, thats ideal. plus you can get away with 2x a wk injects

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

i have looked into it before...dosing really. and than did a bit today. all the stuff i read was guys taking 1.5-2.5mg ED!!!???

some of it was here to (JM)...?? a bit on ology and other random places. so i figured 750mcg wouldnt be too bad

yea, i've seen guys do doses like that too. some of them are probably nobodies, but the people i've known personally who do that are very big dudes! if you go over to OLM, you'll see guys talking about having good results with 500mcg.

[Gymrat827 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gymrat827]

500mcg is where id plan on starting. but now i am thinking i may as well just get anavar or mast. var is my 1st choice