Does anyone recommend the oral only stack that they offer? or one with test?

[gambit Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close gambit]

recovering/recovered well...does that mean u had bloods to back it.

even though this is my first aas cycle i have quite a few PH ones under my belt. Even though sometimes I felt recovered my bloods said other wise. we spend so much money on food and aas spend a lil more now and then and get some bloods done and really know whats going on. to each his own though.

now, my PH (oral) cycle started getting to me. even hdrol will shut you down. Now Sdrol (superdrol) is very strong and can very much shut u down. towards the end of my cycles without a test base id start feeling like crap. even during the start some lethargy would kick in and other sides. now im stacking some Hdrol with my test cycle and feel fucking amazing. cant wait to get bloods done.

[ringpop1 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ringpop1]

Would any of you recommend doing a clen cycle before bulk cycle? What is a good bf% to be at before bulking? If you say yes to taking clen before bulking what cycle would you say do (mg PD, off days, etc.) how long after clen cycle do you have to wait to do bulk cycle?

Thanks for all your help. i have learned a lot from this forum.

[xamo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xamo]

You're comparing a weightloss alternative pill to steroids... it really isn't the same and truth is it all depends on what you're trying to achieve..

[ringpop1 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ringpop1]

I am looking to just make sure i am as lean as possible before bulking because i was planning on doing my cycle this summer and did not want to put on a bunch more fat while bulking because from what i understand i will be eating alot more during the bulk cycle even if i keep it clean it will still be alot. right now i am around 13% Bf. is that a good place to start? I am only asking because i see a few people on here that are saying they want to be below 10% and i see peolle on here talking about doong one with 20+% Bf. That is a huge range. any advise? Do i need to lose a few % and get closer to 10% before or does it really matter?

[xamo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xamo]

20% body fat is too much to use any kind of illegal drugs...

You're fine to start at your bodyfat... if you want to tone then up your cardio and improve your diet... take oxyelite pro as well.. it'll work great.. no need to use drugs that could be extremely bad for your health.

[ringpop1 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ringpop1]

Yeah. my wife takes oxyelite and loves it. thanks.