Anybody ever mess around with a home brew??

[little buddy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close little buddy]

I was just wondering if anyone has ever made there own gear before.

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

Its a hobby..

[JuicedUK Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JuicedUK]

My mate is currently making his own. He gave me a sample bottle to try. Not done it yet tho.

[nympholvr Member Find all posts View Profile Close nympholvr]

I was just wondering if anyone has ever made there own gear before.

Hi Little Buddy there are a lot of recipes if you search conversion. It comes up with a lot of info that people told me to look for. Its really good so you might want to try that

[Liquid Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Liquid]

I'm too stupid for that. N has all one needs and more.

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

After 4 month of experimenting I've found a way to effectively mix methylated powders (orals) cold and create a stable Dianabol injectable. Yesterday I made a Testosterone Base with the same method called "wetting" . I still can't make a stanozolol in oil by the same method, but I keep trying until I succeed. I have two guineapigs on the d-bol-ject and it works very very well. One of these days I make a blend of the base and the d-bol and try it out "in vivo"on a few bodybuilders I know.

I made stanozolol in oil many times at 100 mg/ml, but I want to make it cold and without the poly-ethylene-glycol (PEG)

I'm in this proffession many years, but never heard of this method, I also have the original production method from the original scientists that developed dianabol they recristylated the API in acetone and later solved the cristals. That was in the "Arnold period" but is very much unknown. I'll write an article about this subject later with all documents.

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

..its even longer then 4 month..much longer... posted about it here.. http://juicedmuscle.com/showthread.p...rly-d-bol-ject

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

optics

Some experiments with stanozolol in oil for my old site, these contain PEG. PEG mixes bad with EO thats why you see an arrow wher you can detect two layers. It can be undune by using a surfactant (Ttween20).

Don't ask me for the exact formula I"ve made these experiments for an UG lab and was paid for it oc.

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

wrong pic

again, this time the same pic with arrow and explanation

...and more methan-ject http://juicedmuscle.com/showthread.php?1615-raw-powders this time at 400 mg/ml

[stiphy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close stiphy]

just started looking into it. Planning on ordering some things today actually. cant wait to give it a shot.

[nympholvr Member Find all posts View Profile Close nympholvr]

Its a hobby..

Ronny I have been reading your brew posts and man you are doing some very advanced things. If you can find time to help a new brewer with some tips on making a batch of 50 ml of 400mg total test per ml. ie.. 200 test enan and 200 test cyp per ml. I would be ever so grateful. Feel free to pm me or answer here on the boards thanks for all your expertise Nymph

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

Depends

It depends on your goal. I made this recipe for a client that insisted on minimum 500 mg/ml stable.

Because enanthate and cypionate don't oversturate together you can make it highdosed together, the same is possible with enanthate alone but lots of people don't tolerate that (roid-flu). In spanish speaking countries you don't find enanthate, they prefer cypionate for that reason.

You can make 2 solutions and mix if you want to be low on solvents:
I that case you melt the Enanthate with 2% BA and oil.
The cypionate needs 2% BA - 10% BB.
Mix hot otherwise the cypionate will gellate
Filter at about 30 degrees Celcius.

If you don't mind the amount of solvents and co-solvents put both powders in the same meltingpot:

50 ml - 500 mg/ml displacement 0.80
19 ml Oleate
25 gr API
1 ml BA 2%
10 ml BB 20%

Melt the API (raw powder) with the BA (benzyl alcohol) the BB (benzyl benzoate) and 50 ml Ethyl Oleate, once the solution is clear, put off the heat and add the rest of the oil.

Displacement: one gram of powder is not equal to 1 ml. The powders are 0,75 to 1 (boldenone undecylenate). Enanthate is more compact I always use 0.85 (and then the actual result is a bit overdosing).

If you want Cypionate to be stable on its own add 15-20% BB.

On the pic ...left the Enanthate, right vial the cypionate, the big vial the mix after cooling to roomtemperature.

[nympholvr Member Find all posts View Profile Close nympholvr]

If you don't mind the amount of solvents and co-solvents put both powders in the same meltingpot:

50 ml - 500 mg/ml displacement 0.80
19 ml Oleate
25 gr API
1 ml BA 2%
10 ml BB 20%

Melt the API (raw powder) with the BA (benzyl alcohol) the BB (benzyl benzoate) and 50 ml Ethyl Oleate, once the solution is clear, put off the heat and add the rest of the oil.

Is this right because the ingredients says 19 ml oleate and the recipe says add 50 ml. I think it might be a different number ml's and then add the remainder? Do you prefer oleate as the carrier oil? How do you feel about filtered grapeseed oil? Which method is the best for making? Do the solvents create any problems by melting them all together? I know I asked a lot of questions but I am so intrigued and you are very good at this process so if I am irritating I apologize. Thanks again Ronny for all your help and insight...

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

Yes, comes from a bigger recipe, I decreased the numbers except the last one, should be 5 ml. Personally I prefer Ethyl Oleate or MTC and I know this formula works, other oils other conditions. No you should melt the perservatives (BA) the BB and some EO together. If you can"t get pharma EO you can try the Grapeseed oil. They don't differ that much in viscosity.

[ODB Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ODB]

Thanks for sharing the wealth Ronny -(wealth of knowledge) - Ronny - question does EO affect the absorption rate vs. Oil?

I found good EO on Ebay (make an offer - don't pay retail)

otherwise RLS is great 4 BA+BB+OILS,

this place good 4 low cost glassware -hometrainingtools.com

nice homebrewing is making a comeback