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  • #16
    yep

    The oils do have different pharcokinetics, see attachment,, just like the complete solutions, the estrifications, the solvents and co-solvents the viscosity the concentration and the administrationspot. You could use a low viscosity carrier oil like EO or increase the rate by working with mixed compound that uses EO as a co-solvnet at 20%

    Abstract
    Objective:
    In the search for long-acting testosterone preparations suited for substitution therapy of
    hypogonadal men, testosterone undecanoate (TU) dissolved in either tea seed oil or castor oil was
    investigated.
    Design:
    * In study I, 1000 mg TU in tea seed oil (125 mg/ml) were injected in equal parts into the gluteal
    muscles of seven hypogonadal men.
    * In study II, 1000mg TU in castor oil (250 mg/ml) were injected
    into one gluteal muscle of 14 patients.
    Results:
    In comparison with published data on testosterone enanthate, most widely used for i.m.
    injections, the kinetic profiles of both TU preparations showed extended half-lives and serum levels not
    exceeding the upper limit of normal.
    The TU-castor oil preparation had a longer half-life than TU in tea
    seed oil 34 vs 21 days
    European Journal of Endocrinology 140 414?419



    Volume and Concentration

    Steroids come in all shapes and sizes. In other words, you can find nandrolone (or Testosterone or boldenone) esters in 25 mg/ml, 50 mg/ml, 100 mg/ml, 200 mg/ml and so forth. Is a 400 mg injection using two milliliters of a 200 mg/ml oily solution the same as using four milliliters of a 100 mg/ml solution? After all, the net amount is still 400 mg, right? Unfortunately, this isn?t the case.

    Steroid concentration in the solution greatly affects the dynamics and kinetics. In this study, some of the men received a 100 mg/ml injection of nandrolone decanoate and other men received a 100 mg injection using a 25 mg/ml solution (which means they received four milliliters, of course). Those that received the 100 mg/ml injection reached significantly higher (between 30% and 50%) plasma levels of nandrolone than those who got 100 mg via the 25 mg/ml solution. To top it off, the 100 mg/ml group?s plasma nandrolone level stayed elevated for a little bit longer; however, the length of suppression of endogenous Testosterone was almost identical.

    What does this tell us? It tells us that if we want to maximize plasma levels of hormone (and thereby, maximize gains in lean muscle) we want to opt for the most concentrated version of whatever steroid(s) we decide we?re going to use. If we?re using Testosterone, we surely want to use a 200mg/ml enanthate over something like 100mg enanthate. If we?re using nandrolone, we want to use 300mg/ml stuff over 50mg/ml or 100mg/ml nandrolone decanoate made by others.


    Injections Sites

    Another thing that superficially seems trivial but makes a huge difference in plasma steroid concentrations is where you inject. That?s right, this seems utterly trivial but this study concluded that gluteal injections yielded far superior plasma levels as opposed to injections in the deltoid.

    Of all the locations that nandrolone injections were given in this study (100 mg/ml x 1 ml in the glutes, 25 mg/ml x 4 ml in the glutes and 100 mg/ml x 1 ml in the deltoid), the deltoid injections yielded the lowest plasma levels of nandrolone by a huge factor, with peak concentrations being 50% lower than the 100 mg/ml gluteal injection and around 10% lower than the 100 mg/ml x 4ml gluteal injection. Lesson learned here: Only inject in the glutes for maximal steroidal efficacy.

    Reference

    The Journal of Pharmacology And Experimental Therapeutics, Vol 281, No. 1; 93-102, 1997.
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    • #17
      Interesting field , but I think it's kinda risky to make injectable things at home, risking infection and so ...

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      • #18
        I've wanted to try my hand at some experiments. Going to be watching threads intently.
        thanks for the info Ronny
        Oh Really, ya think!?

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        • #19
          some more http://juicedmuscle.com/showthread.php?4249-Wetting let me know what experiments you guys like to see.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by RonnyT View Post
            let me know what experiments you guys like to see.
            ** how to make Test base powder from scratch?
            "GYM + JUICE"

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            • #21
              started some homebrew articles just gimme some time..http://juicedmuscle.com/jmblog/conte...-cyclodextrins

              A picture that shows how important solvents co-solvents can be on different solutions. Thats why on BoS was a long discussion why highdosed propionates are not available for HG compounds. Its easy to glue a label on vial that it supposed to contain 300 mg/ml, to put that amount in a stable injectable is much harder or should I say impossible..
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              Last edited by RonnyT; 09-19-2011, 07:16 PM.

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              • #22
                Id say it would be worth it to make your own test cause you will most likely be using it in every cycle.. Reasoning is because you typically cannot find small amounts of raws unless it's a primo or something. But yea it's rather easy, the only tough part is finding a solid source. Good luck and let us know what u end up making. And then I DEMAND a LoG lol gl bro

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                • #23
                  Ronny what r ur thoughts on Guaiacol for higher dosed brews as it has local anesthetic properties ?
                  "GYM + JUICE"

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