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The 20 week HGH/IGF-1/insulin blast
July 23, 2014 By John Doe
What I want to talk about in this post is a 20 week plan to build some new muscle. This is for the guy who has cycled steroids numerous times, has been in the gym for several years, and is not what I’d consider “new to the game”. This is for an experienced bodybuilder who wants to take his level of development to the next level.
The first thing you need to understand is that this shit gets expensive, and if you can find a cost effective way to grow then by all means do it!!
One of the more cost effective ways I’ve found was to run IGF-1 with HGH. It allows you to keep your HGH a little lower and still gives you a nice bang, and it’s faster than just HGH alone. I also find that I don’t get the extreme side effects from going higher on the HGH, I can stay right at 2 iu’s a day of HGH and feel good, and run the IGF-1 at 80 mcg on the days I lift.
The insulin gives the peptides a real 1-2 punch, and you will be using that 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, 4 weeks on. Unless you’re like me and you’re diabetic, then you just stay on insulin, LOL. The HGH will be ran at 2 iu’s/day, 5 days on and 2 days off. The IGF-1 will be used 4 weeks on, 4 off, 4 weeks on, 4 off, and last 4 weeks on again.
So what you will need for this 20 week cycle is 2 kits of HGH, 3 vials of IGF-1, and some fast acting insulin such as humalog or nolvalog. If you don’t have access to humalog or nolvalog then humulin-R is fine, and humulin-R can be purchased over the counter without a prescription in most places. You DON’T NEED INSULIN for this, as just HGH and IGF-1 will also work exceptionally well.
As for steroids, I would just stick with a couple basic compounds in moderate dosages. Something along the lines of test/deca OR test/EQ will be fine. You will run a 20 week cycle of that along with your peptides. I run my HGH 5 days on/2 days off, and I take my IGF-1 just on training days. I take my insulin every day because I have to, but you should only take it on training days if you’re not insulin dependent like myself.
Now, pay close attention here. The way to really benefit from insulin and achieve maximum volume in the muscles is to take your insulin BEFORE you work out. Now you need to do this EXACTLY the way I’m telling you here, no exceptions. You want to take your insulin exactly 1 hour before you train. I would start at 5 iu’s, and never go over 10 iu’s.
Protein and carb intake on insulin
After you take your insulin you need to consume around 40-60 grams of protein and 10 grams of carbs for every unit of insulin you use. So if you shot 5 iu’s of insulin, then something like a chicken breast or a protein shake along with a few packets of instant oatmeal. For my carbs I don’t go 100% sugar, but I try to have something that is a little more sugar based, and instant oats is a perfect meal choice for me. I find that the slower digested carbs mixed in with the sugar helps keep me a little more stable as the insulin peaks. Yes, sugar is initially what you want, but when the insulin peaks you do want some slower digesting carbs as well.
Insulin can actually peak twice after you take it. After you eat your protein/carb meal you will start training 1 hour after. Now, here is the key; during your training you want to be sipping on something else with sugar in it. I will drink a Gatorade during my lift, sipping it between sets. In a normal setting 10 iu’s of sugar per unit of insulin is fine, but training is actually going to create more of a caloric/glucose deficit so consuming some sugars during your lift is crucial.
You are going to find that your pump in the gym is insane, mush more intense than normal. My arms feel like they are going to burst when I do this and I pump up to a degree where my body actually looks noticeably larger.
Your workout should be kept around an hour or so when doing this protocol. After you train you will consume another meal consisting of 40-60 grams of protein and another 60-80 grams of carbs.
If you’re VERY EXPERIENCED like myself then a post workout shot of insulin will work fine as well, but be cautious of insulin “stacking.” Stacking is when you think you’re taking a certain amount of insulin and it’s really more because the previous shot of insulin is still kicking. So post workout if you take 10 iu’s of insulin it may be more like 14 iu’s if that first shot prior to the lift is still lowering your glucose.
Usually when I finish training I go eat at this place called Chipotle Grill, and I get a chicken or steak bowl with rice, corn, salsa, and lettuce. I get a lemonade to drink with it. It’s a perfect combo of protein, carbs and sugars with little fat. You want to stay away from fat pre and post workout and just consume protein and carbs. Fat is much more easily stored while using insulin and I’m going to tell you why. When you take insulin your blood sugar gets dramatically lower very fast. Where do you think the sugar goes when it’s lowered through insulin use? Exactly, what doesn’t get absorbed by the muscle gets stored as fat. Fat will not get absorbed by your muscles, so it will go directly to fat storage. I’d wait until the insulin window is over with before consuming any fats, even health fats.
Post workout is also when you want to shoot your IGF-1. IGF-1 should be measured out in a 1 ml insulin syringe and you want to fill 2 of them. You will inject your IGF-1 into lagging muscle groups that you want to bring up. It’s a good idea to inject into muscles just trained also.
Units of Measurement
Now, there is something I want you to be very aware of here. The units of measurement for IGF-1 and insulin are different than that of HGH. With HGH you actually fill your pin to the numbers. 2 iu’s is going to be the 20 mark on the pin, 4 iu’s is the 40 mark, etc. Now, with insulin and IGF-1, a unit is actually a “click” on the pin, or a line. So if you filled your 1 ml insulin syringe to the 20 like you would for 2 iu’s of HGH, you seriously fucked up, and I hope you don’t die. Insulin can kill you quickly. Make sure you know your shit before fucking around with it. Research everything you can, and just know that it’s not worth it unless you’re very educated and experienced. It doesn’t have to be dangerous if you know your shit, but if you do it without knowing anything you may go to sleep and never wake up again.
This also brings me to my next point; don’t use insulin at night. Do it so you know it’s clear from your system before you go to sleep that evening. With humalog or nolvalog it’s about a 3 hour window after you inject. With humulin R- it’s going to be more like a 5 hour window.
I would take my HGH in the morning at 2 iu’s. Anymore than 2 iu’s-4iu’s/day and I’d split the shots up and inject 2 or 3 times a day. Your body is only going to handle so much at one time and I don’t think you’re getting the full advantage of growth by taking an assload all at one time. Now, for myself 2 iu’s of legit HGH/day does me fine. Especially when using it along with IGF-1. I mainly want the anti aging and fat burning properties from the HGH, IGF-1 should give me the growing part of the equation.
But HGH is costly, I simply cannot commit to running higher dosages, and the side effects get bad when you get higher with it. I get very tired from it, and the numb hands gets old. It will constantly make your hands fall asleep and it gets annoying, and I’m pretty sure the issues of permanent carpal tunnel syndrome is real when HGH is used too high for too long. Not to mention the other side effects like acramology, foot growth, and intestinal growth just don’t sound exciting to me. So for me personally, I keep my HGH at 2 iu’s/day.
As for steroids, I don’t use much at all. I keep my testosterone at 200mg/week and if I’m running deca or equipoise with it then those are no more than 400mg/week most of the time. Actually, 300/week is my limit on deca, and eq is taken at 400mg/week. I will use something a little more moderate to run for 20 weeks alongside the peptides. I wouldn’t be doing that with winstrol or trenbolone. Another compound I may consider going 20 weeks on would be masteron, provided body fat was low enough to start with.
Masteron is pretty useless if you’re not in single digit body fat, but masteron is mild enough to use for 20 weeks. Now, I can go 20 weeks at a time because I’m on testosterone replacement, so fear of shutdown is just not an issue with me. For a guy who still cycles on/off, you may want to consider a bridge here.
This is how a 20 week HGH/IGF-1/Insulin blast would look with a bridge:
Weeks 1-8: 200mg/week test, 400mg/week EQ, (first 4 weeks with IGF-1 and insulin, then 4 weeks off IGF-1 and insulin)
Weeks 9-12: 150mg/week test only, 1250 iu HCG/wk times 4 weeks (4 more weeks on IGF-1 and insulin)
Weeks 13-20: 200mg/week test, 300mg/week deca (4 weeks off IGF-1 and insulin, then last 4 weeks on again)
Weeks 21-24: 50mg/day clomid, 10-20mg/day nolvadex, 1250 iu/week HCG for recovery.
So basically there you have it, the 20 week HGH/IGF-1/Insulin blast. This is a little more advanced, but not everything I write is for beginners.
Happy growing!
July 23, 2014 By John Doe
What I want to talk about in this post is a 20 week plan to build some new muscle. This is for the guy who has cycled steroids numerous times, has been in the gym for several years, and is not what I’d consider “new to the game”. This is for an experienced bodybuilder who wants to take his level of development to the next level.
The first thing you need to understand is that this shit gets expensive, and if you can find a cost effective way to grow then by all means do it!!
One of the more cost effective ways I’ve found was to run IGF-1 with HGH. It allows you to keep your HGH a little lower and still gives you a nice bang, and it’s faster than just HGH alone. I also find that I don’t get the extreme side effects from going higher on the HGH, I can stay right at 2 iu’s a day of HGH and feel good, and run the IGF-1 at 80 mcg on the days I lift.
The insulin gives the peptides a real 1-2 punch, and you will be using that 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, 4 weeks on. Unless you’re like me and you’re diabetic, then you just stay on insulin, LOL. The HGH will be ran at 2 iu’s/day, 5 days on and 2 days off. The IGF-1 will be used 4 weeks on, 4 off, 4 weeks on, 4 off, and last 4 weeks on again.
So what you will need for this 20 week cycle is 2 kits of HGH, 3 vials of IGF-1, and some fast acting insulin such as humalog or nolvalog. If you don’t have access to humalog or nolvalog then humulin-R is fine, and humulin-R can be purchased over the counter without a prescription in most places. You DON’T NEED INSULIN for this, as just HGH and IGF-1 will also work exceptionally well.
As for steroids, I would just stick with a couple basic compounds in moderate dosages. Something along the lines of test/deca OR test/EQ will be fine. You will run a 20 week cycle of that along with your peptides. I run my HGH 5 days on/2 days off, and I take my IGF-1 just on training days. I take my insulin every day because I have to, but you should only take it on training days if you’re not insulin dependent like myself.
Now, pay close attention here. The way to really benefit from insulin and achieve maximum volume in the muscles is to take your insulin BEFORE you work out. Now you need to do this EXACTLY the way I’m telling you here, no exceptions. You want to take your insulin exactly 1 hour before you train. I would start at 5 iu’s, and never go over 10 iu’s.
Protein and carb intake on insulin
After you take your insulin you need to consume around 40-60 grams of protein and 10 grams of carbs for every unit of insulin you use. So if you shot 5 iu’s of insulin, then something like a chicken breast or a protein shake along with a few packets of instant oatmeal. For my carbs I don’t go 100% sugar, but I try to have something that is a little more sugar based, and instant oats is a perfect meal choice for me. I find that the slower digested carbs mixed in with the sugar helps keep me a little more stable as the insulin peaks. Yes, sugar is initially what you want, but when the insulin peaks you do want some slower digesting carbs as well.
Insulin can actually peak twice after you take it. After you eat your protein/carb meal you will start training 1 hour after. Now, here is the key; during your training you want to be sipping on something else with sugar in it. I will drink a Gatorade during my lift, sipping it between sets. In a normal setting 10 iu’s of sugar per unit of insulin is fine, but training is actually going to create more of a caloric/glucose deficit so consuming some sugars during your lift is crucial.
You are going to find that your pump in the gym is insane, mush more intense than normal. My arms feel like they are going to burst when I do this and I pump up to a degree where my body actually looks noticeably larger.
Your workout should be kept around an hour or so when doing this protocol. After you train you will consume another meal consisting of 40-60 grams of protein and another 60-80 grams of carbs.
If you’re VERY EXPERIENCED like myself then a post workout shot of insulin will work fine as well, but be cautious of insulin “stacking.” Stacking is when you think you’re taking a certain amount of insulin and it’s really more because the previous shot of insulin is still kicking. So post workout if you take 10 iu’s of insulin it may be more like 14 iu’s if that first shot prior to the lift is still lowering your glucose.
Usually when I finish training I go eat at this place called Chipotle Grill, and I get a chicken or steak bowl with rice, corn, salsa, and lettuce. I get a lemonade to drink with it. It’s a perfect combo of protein, carbs and sugars with little fat. You want to stay away from fat pre and post workout and just consume protein and carbs. Fat is much more easily stored while using insulin and I’m going to tell you why. When you take insulin your blood sugar gets dramatically lower very fast. Where do you think the sugar goes when it’s lowered through insulin use? Exactly, what doesn’t get absorbed by the muscle gets stored as fat. Fat will not get absorbed by your muscles, so it will go directly to fat storage. I’d wait until the insulin window is over with before consuming any fats, even health fats.
Post workout is also when you want to shoot your IGF-1. IGF-1 should be measured out in a 1 ml insulin syringe and you want to fill 2 of them. You will inject your IGF-1 into lagging muscle groups that you want to bring up. It’s a good idea to inject into muscles just trained also.
Units of Measurement
Now, there is something I want you to be very aware of here. The units of measurement for IGF-1 and insulin are different than that of HGH. With HGH you actually fill your pin to the numbers. 2 iu’s is going to be the 20 mark on the pin, 4 iu’s is the 40 mark, etc. Now, with insulin and IGF-1, a unit is actually a “click” on the pin, or a line. So if you filled your 1 ml insulin syringe to the 20 like you would for 2 iu’s of HGH, you seriously fucked up, and I hope you don’t die. Insulin can kill you quickly. Make sure you know your shit before fucking around with it. Research everything you can, and just know that it’s not worth it unless you’re very educated and experienced. It doesn’t have to be dangerous if you know your shit, but if you do it without knowing anything you may go to sleep and never wake up again.
This also brings me to my next point; don’t use insulin at night. Do it so you know it’s clear from your system before you go to sleep that evening. With humalog or nolvalog it’s about a 3 hour window after you inject. With humulin R- it’s going to be more like a 5 hour window.
I would take my HGH in the morning at 2 iu’s. Anymore than 2 iu’s-4iu’s/day and I’d split the shots up and inject 2 or 3 times a day. Your body is only going to handle so much at one time and I don’t think you’re getting the full advantage of growth by taking an assload all at one time. Now, for myself 2 iu’s of legit HGH/day does me fine. Especially when using it along with IGF-1. I mainly want the anti aging and fat burning properties from the HGH, IGF-1 should give me the growing part of the equation.
But HGH is costly, I simply cannot commit to running higher dosages, and the side effects get bad when you get higher with it. I get very tired from it, and the numb hands gets old. It will constantly make your hands fall asleep and it gets annoying, and I’m pretty sure the issues of permanent carpal tunnel syndrome is real when HGH is used too high for too long. Not to mention the other side effects like acramology, foot growth, and intestinal growth just don’t sound exciting to me. So for me personally, I keep my HGH at 2 iu’s/day.
As for steroids, I don’t use much at all. I keep my testosterone at 200mg/week and if I’m running deca or equipoise with it then those are no more than 400mg/week most of the time. Actually, 300/week is my limit on deca, and eq is taken at 400mg/week. I will use something a little more moderate to run for 20 weeks alongside the peptides. I wouldn’t be doing that with winstrol or trenbolone. Another compound I may consider going 20 weeks on would be masteron, provided body fat was low enough to start with.
Masteron is pretty useless if you’re not in single digit body fat, but masteron is mild enough to use for 20 weeks. Now, I can go 20 weeks at a time because I’m on testosterone replacement, so fear of shutdown is just not an issue with me. For a guy who still cycles on/off, you may want to consider a bridge here.
This is how a 20 week HGH/IGF-1/Insulin blast would look with a bridge:
Weeks 1-8: 200mg/week test, 400mg/week EQ, (first 4 weeks with IGF-1 and insulin, then 4 weeks off IGF-1 and insulin)
Weeks 9-12: 150mg/week test only, 1250 iu HCG/wk times 4 weeks (4 more weeks on IGF-1 and insulin)
Weeks 13-20: 200mg/week test, 300mg/week deca (4 weeks off IGF-1 and insulin, then last 4 weeks on again)
Weeks 21-24: 50mg/day clomid, 10-20mg/day nolvadex, 1250 iu/week HCG for recovery.
So basically there you have it, the 20 week HGH/IGF-1/Insulin blast. This is a little more advanced, but not everything I write is for beginners.
Happy growing!
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