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  • Oral Tren(Metribolone)

    By: Big Cat

    Metribolone


    Pharmaceutical Name: Methyltrienolone
    Chemical structure: 17-methylestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one,17b-ol
    Molecular weight of base: 284.3974


    Effective dose: 5-15 mg / day
    Average Street-price: Only available for research purposes.
    Available Doses: None

    Brands & Products: Originally produced by Negma, but never approved for production.

    Characteristics:

    Methyltrienolone is structurally similar to trenbolone (Parabolan/Finaplix), a well-liked and powerful androgen that does not aromatize to estrogen. The difference is the attachment of a 17-alpha-methyl group for oral activity. So one could refer to methyltrienolone as oral trenbolone. It was first explored quite some time ago by Negma in France, the same company that marketed Parabolan (trenbolone). But the drug was never approved by the French government and was hence never produced. The reason was extreme hepatoxicity. Bill Roberts, the biochemist, once commented that taking methyltrienolone made taking insane doses of anadrol and Halotestin together look mild on the liver. While I was unable to find anything in the literature that describes the extent of the liver toxicity, it's a generally accepted fact. That's also why, to the dissapointment of many, you will never find a commercially marketed methyltrienolone product. Its only sold in bulk to labs and universities for research studies involving androgens.

    Mainly because (and those who wish it was available will wish so even more now) its such a potent androgen. There is some conflicting information in that regard however. Organic chemist Patrick Arnold, head of LPJ research, once stated that methyltrienolone was the most powerful steroid ever, and that statement has been blown out of proportion and taken on a life of its own. While androgenically a very potent steroid, methyltrienolone is still basically trenbolone with a 17-alpha-methyl group. A group that has the tendency to actually reduce the androgenic potency. So it may actually be somewhat milder than trenbolone, on the contrary to what many pseudo steroid guru's are now claiming after reading Pat Arnold's statement. I can't find any other documented effects of the 17-alpha-alkylation influencing androgen binding in a positive way. It's a potent androgen, with more binding than even DHT2, but the study that claims that is mild at the very best about quantifications, whereas people have used the term 1000 times more powerful than testosterone, which is surely exaggerated.

    What is interesting is that it seems to show nearly no binding for sex-hormone binding proteins, which makes it a popular choice in androgen receptor studies3, since it will demonstrate equal binding in all tissues regardless of the presence and amount of these proteins. No doubt this plays a role in its supposed binding capacity. In this instance the 17-alpha-alkylation may have played a key role, since it has been demonstrated a multitude of times that 17-alpha-methyl groups decrease the binding for sex-hormone binding proteins as well as most other structures, and due to its triple double bond, trenbolone really didn't bind well to these to begin with.

    One of the findings made in clinical tests with methyltrienolone was the discovery of high amounts of the DHT-deactivating enzyme 3alpha-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase in muscle tissue4. Once again proof that God meant to keep us humans weak. Hurray for science. Follow-up studies then went on to show that DHT nonetheless showed similar binding in the prostate, and showing little or no presence of the deactivating enzyme. So God would rather have us all die of prostate cancer than gain a few ounces of muscle. It's a comforting thought, no?

    What methyltrienolone, despite its amazing capacity, still doesn't overcome are the basic problems with any 19Nor compound. First of all its effects on libido. Methyltrienolone still seems to affect our sex drive in such a potent manner that the dreaded Deca Dick (temporary impotence) is a very real threat5. Another is that it still binds almost equipotently to the progesterone receptor3. The latter would be of little concern as long as no circulating estrogen is present since methyltrienolone does not aromatize, but could cause problems such as aggravating water retention and gyno (growth of breast tissue in men) if combined with an aromatizing androgen or an estrogen.

    While many may wish that an incredibly strong androgenic, non-aromatizing compound as this was available for daily use, its not. And if the indications are true, its probably best. I've warned many people for the toxicity of fluoxymesterone, and everything points to it that methyltrienolone makes fluoxymesterone look like Tums tablets in terms of liver toxicity.

    Stacking and Use:

    Obviously this section is mostly useless, as any who would use, let alone stack methyltrienolone for any decent period of time, wouldn't really be around long enough to tell us how well it worked. Ideally one would use it alone, while dieting or for the purpose of gaining lean mass. The androgenic potency is slightly higher than that of trenbolone, so the risk for aggravated hair loss, acne, prostate hypertrophy and deepening of voice is not only realistic, but almost likely. If one were to use it, you would probably have to use every trick in the book to protect your liver and stay alive: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Milk thistle, dessicated liver and Vitamin B6. The blood pressure raise would not be mild either. So something to lower blood pressure is advised as well.

    Of course the best advice is to refrain from using such a compound, although for 99% of the population that is not a problem, and I would assume that the 1% that does have access would know better.

  • #2
    Eww. tren and my body does not get along. We hate each other. Its to bad because its a good drug.
    Muscles are made in the kitchen, not in the gym. Eat big to get big.

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    • #3
      hehehe I finally got my 2 packets of GP Oral Tren ill be starting them in about 2-3 weeks , cant wait , from the reading iv done it seems to be good for strength and especially good for mental tear shit up in the gym attitude, but not to much in terms of the inj tren for the shredding abilities, guess we will find out going to run it with test prop and Tren E .

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      • #4
        Let us know how it works out and everything. Its something im interested in just hear its soooo bad for the liver even more so than Halo.

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        • #5
          Well, you hard wrong.
          It's not good for the liver, but rumours about the toxicity are overdone.

          At the moment i'm running methyl tren for the 3th time.
          int the past i always dosed between 2-4 mg for 3 weeks
          currently @2mg for 5 weeks

          As long as you don't dose it too high or too long, damage isn't that big. I've had check ups after previous cycles and my liver values were all slightly elevated,
          prolly the same as they would be from diana

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          • #6
            I will eventually run GP's oral tren. It looks bad ass. Their ace is sick.

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            • #7
              I took 100 mgs of Winny for 6 weeks and switched over to the oral Tren last week. Started off at 2 mgs/ day (8 pills @ 0.25mcgs each) last week and decided to up it to 2.5 mgs or 10 tabs per day this week. I am impressed so far with the strength gains and endurance, but I've been getting really lightheaded and short of breath in between sets, not to mention that I haven't stopped sweating since I started w/ the tren last week.
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              • #8
                Wow disco! I only planned on using 3 tabs during the 4-6 weeks and maybe 4 pills MAX but WOWWW 10 tabs a day ? Crazy stuff , were you not getting enough results on 3 tabs ? Hehe I did GP oral winny at 50 mg for about 6 weeks also it was okay nothing special just made muscles harder but no other notable effects. Same with you though tcastle 2mg wowee

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DiscoDino247 View Post
                  I took 100 mgs of Winny for 6 weeks and switched over to the oral Tren last week. Started off at 2 mgs/ day (8 pills @ 0.25mcgs each) last week and decided to up it to 2.5 mgs or 10 tabs per day this week. I am impressed so far with the strength gains and endurance, but I've been getting really lightheaded and short of breath in between sets, not to mention that I haven't stopped sweating since I started w/ the tren last week.
                  I believe you would get those effects bro thats alot! Yeah i was thinking 4 max if i do decide to run this

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                  • #10
                    yea, disco, that is a pretty large dose. i know a national level super heavy weight who uses under 2 mg and i thought that was a lot! i can hardly deal with 1 mg after awhile.
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                    • #11
                      Healthy diet and good training exercise will keep you physically fit while aiming for the body of your dreams.
                      You need to work its out naturally.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JacobS View Post
                        Healthy diet and good training exercise will keep you physically fit while aiming for the body of your dreams.
                        You need to work its out naturally.
                        while u r 80% correct, You do realize that u r on JUICEDMUSCLE.COM? not a ton of natural guys here.
                        "GYM + JUICE"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JacobS View Post
                          Healthy diet and good training exercise will keep you physically fit while aiming for the body of your dreams.
                          You need to work its out naturally.
                          True AAS are for plateus! lol

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JacobS View Post
                            Healthy diet and good training exercise will keep you physically fit while aiming for the body of your dreams.
                            You need to work its out naturally.
                            Thanks JacobS and great first post, not really (btw hope you're kidding, and if not don't be "that guy"and come on here preaching about being natural.) I have been "physically fit" my entire life, I started training in HS and now that I'm older I DO have the body of my dreams thanks to a healthy diet, great routine and AAS.
                            Founder of M.A.A.D.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DiscoDino247 View Post
                              Thanks JacobS and great first post, not really (btw hope you're kidding, and if not don't be "that guy"and come on here preaching about being natural.) I have been "physically fit" my entire life, I started training in HS and now that I'm older I DO have the body of my dreams thanks to a healthy diet, great routine and AAS.
                              Tell him brother!

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