ok updated cycle please constructive thoughts thinking outside box

[OldNewBe Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close OldNewBe]

ok so I started 6'2'' 197lbs and maybe 16% BF idk but not really fat. my body is reacting amazing to my cycle thus far
running:

100mg prop ed
75mg tren ed
armidex .5mg eod

been on this two weeks and gained 10lbs! Im at 208lbs and not bloated at all and been eating right and I mean super on check. I feel like I havent retained much water and strength is through the friggen roof. Love being back on gear!

rest of cycle looks like this:

750mg test ew
700mg eq ew
75mg tren ed

I will stop the tren after 6 weeks total but will continue the test/eq for a total of 6 weeks

My question is im gaining so fast and dont really care about getting huge again and wasnt really planning on a bulk cycle or a cut cycle but now I was thinking of running both??

if I ran for two weeks clen in my cycle and ate 2g protein/lb of BW and just right at border of my baseline (maybe a total of 2200 cals a day). so I should not lose muscle and might gain just a little with the gear and hopefully burn some serious fat.

then go back normal for 3 weeks after the clen and pack on some more muscle and depending on results from the first clen 2 weeks do it again after im off and have completed PCT.

whooo ok so thats a lot to think about but why not.

so guess id be like mini bulk then cut, then bulk then PCT and maybe cut again after if needed

am I nuts?? what is everyones thoughts?

[xamo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xamo]

I can guarantee you that you'll lose muscles on Clen. That, whatever you do. I'll let the others answer about the rest.

[OldNewBe Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close OldNewBe]

but the lose of muscle should be minimal (I hope) being on gear and eating enough

I know you have had bad experiences with clen. I dont know how I will react so going to take it one step and at a time. If my body reacts bad Ill stop

[xamo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xamo]

Oh I wasn't referring to my personal experience - seems like I'm one of the very rare to have gotten those effects. Truth is you'll always lose some mass while cutting - depending on how efficient your diet is you might be able to minimize the loss though that's what I should have said.

[OldNewBe Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close OldNewBe]

yes I know I will lose some but thats fine because Ill be cutting haha

thx for input

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

Ya know there's so many ways to use gear and everyone reacts differently, so I say go a head and try it, it might work for ya. Keep us up to date.

[OldNewBe Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close OldNewBe]

well after running clen for 2 weeks i feel great the test is starting to kick in 750mg ew and eq 800mg ew

finished up prop and still on tren

i actually gained some weight while on clen??? it was crazy I def lost fat and got more vascular. Workouts were really intense but I ate very clean and kept cals to around 2000 maybe 2200 some days. carbs never over 100g in a day and most carbs i ate was 9am before my workouts.

going to run test/tren/eq for the next 4 weeks and finish my cycle with winn/prop/phenyl/ and maybe clen to just tighten it up hard!

loving it so far!

[OldNewBe Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close OldNewBe]

after 6 weeks of test, eq, tren with a 2 week run on clen

Ive gained 17lbs and dropped 4% BF really happy with results and strength in through the roof!

very excited to finish off this cyc with my winn/prop,phenyl!!

[JkW4244 Member Find all posts View Profile Close JkW4244]

what dosages did you run your clen at? considering running it in my cycle just curious cause it sounds like you responded well.

[OldNewBe Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close OldNewBe]

i ran 40/60/80/80/80/100/100/120/140/120/100/80/80/60

something like that just felt how my body was reacting and shakes etc

it went well

really excited to run it again at end if my order ever shows up

[JkW4244 Member Find all posts View Profile Close JkW4244]

that's how i feel right now! waiting on my first order, running test cyp 10 weeks with a 4 week t-bol kick start, i bought clen and t3 as well to shed some extra body fat. did you run the clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off or straight through? i've been reading varying opinions on how it should be run and if you restricted calories or not while running it.