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[joebillings Member Find all posts View Profile Close joebillings]

o ok man 5'7 171

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I wouldn't be to set on gaining 30lbs from a cycle.......If your are taking in a shitload of carbs and protein and workout is great, 20-25 is a little more reasonable. Just my opinion

o ok man 5'7 171

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kept after pct or just while I'm on?

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Total is not out of question, I gained and kept 20 after my first cycle

kept after pct or just while I'm on?

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works for me I've read some ppl gaining 40 lbs although everyone's different... would b-12 injections help with app I am having a hard time eating right now

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yes b12 shots have been said to help app.. make sure u get it from a credible place. avoid drinking fluids around meal times so u can eat more bunch of small meals bro.thc. if ur having a hard time eating pre-cycle u should go get a physical b4 u jump into this as well bud. Just in case.. but they can also prescribe stuff to help.

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if u eat enough calories u can do 30 pounds but u wont keep all of that after pct and u might not manage enough calories to get that anyway

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Is the media just b.sing or is it true... is the gains on roids short lived? I know you lose water and such during pct but some ppl say if you use roids and never use again within a few months you lose everything... I kinda feel like that's based on b.s and I'd say if you keep eating and training u'd keep whatever you got post cycle... any body wanna answer honestly...>

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maybe hit up the test cyp at 250 for 10 or 12 weeks. and dbol 30mg split up in the day for 4 or 6 weeks. the adex and proper pct. I dont have a lot of $ right now and i was thinking that for myself

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or maybe test sus too

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Are you thinking of stacking test cyp with sus? there's no point man... many many ppl say stick to cyp or enathate... I've found test E and cyp for @30 250mg 10ml that's 10 weeks at 250mg... dbol is 200 for $45 arimidex $17 and nolva for pct $19 idk the rules so idk if I can say what brand but the place to order is listed on the forum... really curious about the makers like who should I get from brand wise... go with the cheapest or what... idk..

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Think about this... my stack total is about $175 w. shipping... I have spent more money on supplements before... plus that's for 3months worth... plus 4 weeks pct... not bad at all.

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well i was saying one of the 3. i hear sus gives good strength gains. i currently am just doing t3 and clen

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test in general good strength.... + dbol is great 4 it.... test suspension is the best... but inj ED! & it's reported painful...... how clen treating u?