Getting the Most out of my Gear (Test/Tren/Insulin/Clen)

[progressive Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close progressive]

Hey guys,

I'm putting together a cycle that I want to start soon and I figured I'd come to the experts to get an opinion on it.

About me: I'm 31, 5' 10", currently 180 lbs. I haven't tested my BF lately, but I'm in the flat stomach but no abs range.

Goals for this cycle: as much mass as possible while minimizing fat gain.

Cycle history: I've done several cycles. My first was with prohormone orals. The last couple have been test only because I have access to it. I'm on TRT and my baseline dose is 150 mg per week.

What I have to work with:

• Testosterone Cypionate 200 mg/mL, unlimited supply
• Trenbolone Enanthate 200 mg/mL, 2 10 mL vials
• Humalog 100 u/mL, unlimited supply
• Metformin 500 mg, unlimited supply
• Clenbuterol 20 mcg, 200 tabs
• Arimidex 1 mg, unlimited supply
• Finasteride 5 mg, unlimited supply

Of course, the arimidex and finasteride are there to limit estrogen and DHT conversion of test, reduce sides, and increase the effective dose.

This will be my first time using insulin. My training buddy is diabetic, so we're familiar with hypo and we always carry a glucagon pen. Even so, I'm going to be conservative with the humalog and metformin dosages. If I start to feel comfortable with the humalog and fat isn't piling on, I may increase the dose from once a day to twice a day. Last, because of the way insulin works, I'm going to get my BF down a bit lower before starting this cycle.

WEEK 1: test 400 mg, tren 200 mg, metformin 500 mg, clenbuterol
WEEK 2: test 400 mg, tren 200 mg, metformin 500 mg, clenbuterol
WEEK 3: test 400 mg, tren 200 mg, metformin 500 mg
WEEK 4: test 400 mg, tren 200 mg, metformin 500 mg
WEEK 5: test 400 mg, tren 300 mg, metformin 500 mg, humalog 8 u daily, clenbuterol
WEEK 5: test 400 mg, tren 400 mg, metformin 500 mg, humalog 8 u daily, clenbuterol
WEEK 5: test 400 mg, tren 400 mg, metformin 500 mg, humalog 8 u daily
WEEK 5: test 400 mg, tren 400 mg, metformin 500 mg, humalog 8 u daily
WEEK 9: test 400 mg, tren 400 mg, metformin 500 mg, clenbuterol
WEEK 10: test 400 mg, tren 400 mg, metformin 500 mg, clenbuterol

Any room for improvement here? (Hopefully the answer is a big fat YES.) I want to get the best results from the gear I have, so any help would be appreciated.

[ODB Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ODB]

IMO - I would use either the Tren or the Slin, not both together 1st time.
- From what I read above ur actually adding 4 new compounds -
Trenbolone Enanthate 200 mg/mL,
Humalog 100 u/mL,
Metformin 500 mg,
Clenbuterol 20 mcg,
I like to see how my body reacts to a new drug 1st before I add another compound.
I do not want to be in a position where I have multiple sides or feeling like shit + not knowing if its the tren or the slin? + Tren E is the long ester so if u have issues it will take days to weeks for relief if u come off.

what u could do, since ur always "On" is lengthen the Blast; This is not a gospel cycle just something I spit out quickly off of ur posted cycle.
WEEK 1: test 400 mg, metformin 500 mg,
WEEK 2: test 400 mg, metformin 500 mg,
WEEK 3: test 400 mg, metformin 500 mg
WEEK 4: test 400 mg, metformin 500 mg
WEEK 5: test 400 mg, metformin 500 mg, humalog 8 u daily,
WEEK 6: test 400 mg, metformin 500 mg, humalog 8 u daily,
WEEK 7: test 400 mg, metformin 500 mg, humalog 8 u daily
WEEK 8: test 400 mg, metformin 500 mg, humalog 8 u daily
WEEK 9: test 400 mg, metformin 500 mg, clenbuterol
WEEK 10: test 400 mg, metformin 500 mg, clenbuterol
week 11: test 400 mg, tren 200 mg
week 12: test 400mg, tren 200mg
week 13: test 400mg, tren 200 mg
week 14: Test 500mg, tren 300mg
week 14: Test 500mg, tren 300mg - u see where I'm going with this...?

I'm giving u 4 weeks to see how ur body reacts to a new compound B4 adding a new one (except Clen).

Or u could split this into 3-4 different cycles adding a new compound each cycle. - JM2C

[progressive Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close progressive]

Thanks for the help, ODB. OK, I've taken what you said and used it to revise my cycle.

What's affecting my decisions:

• I'm a little uncomfortable running the cycle for more than ten to twelve weeks because my rbc count gets pretty high around that time.
• I'll still be starting each new compound on its own for at least two weeks before adding another.
• I want to run tren and humalog together to benefit from the synergy.

Precycle: metformin 500 mg x 2 weeks.
WEEK 1: test 400 mg, tren 200 mg, metformin 500 mg
WEEK 2: test 400 mg, tren 200 mg, metformin 500 mg
WEEK 3: test 400 mg, tren 200 mg, metformin 500 mg, clenbuterol
WEEK 4: test 400 mg, tren 200 mg, metformin 500 mg, clenbuterol
WEEK 5: test 400 mg, tren 300 mg, metformin 500 mg, humalog 8 u daily
WEEK 5: test 400 mg, tren 400 mg, metformin 500 mg, humalog 8 u daily
WEEK 5: test 400 mg, tren 400 mg, metformin 500 mg, humalog 8 u daily, clenbuterol
WEEK 5: test 400 mg, tren 400 mg, metformin 500 mg, humalog 8 u daily, clenbuterol
WEEK 9: test 400 mg, tren 400 mg, metformin 500 mg
WEEK 10: test 400 mg, tren 400 mg, metformin 500 mg
WEEK 11: test 600 mg, metformin 500 mg, clenbuterol
WEEK 12: test 600 mg, metformin 500 mg, clenbuterol

Is this looking any better?

[starman Member Find all posts View Profile Close starman]

Not in total understanding about the purpose of metaformin and insulin in this context.
I was on metaformin until I got the proper test levels worked out and glucose levels got dangerously low 60 in morning or less.
had to reduce or at times stop met. so be careful with it.

[ODB Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ODB]

OK, I've taken what you said and used it to revise my cycle.

What's affecting my decisions:
[LIST][*]I'm a little uncomfortable running the cycle for more than ten to twelve weeks because my rbc count gets pretty high around that time.

Is this looking any better?

U can fix ur RBC by giving blood, u can do it B4 cycle, during or after - I give every 4 months.

The other thing to think about is if u want to cycle down (which I do) - come down from the 600mg Test to ur HRT dose in steps instead of 1 jump off the cliff.
- drop like 100 mg per wk, would add an addition of 3-4 wks to ur blast;
week 13: test 500mg
week 14: test 400mg
week 15: test 300mg
week 16: HRT dose

[progressive Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close progressive]

Alright, thanks for your help, ODB. I'll be doing a cycle log soon, so keep an eye out for that. Excited to get started.

[ratatat Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ratatat]

You shouldn't be running insulin without HGH

[lorenzino841 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close lorenzino841]

why ? i don't thinck so ... ok gh with slin are good sinergy but also slin witouht gh are good for bulk ....