I am planning tren + test

[mercury Banned Find all posts View Profile Close mercury]

thanks this is exactly what I wanted to know

but are we talking 10-20 lbs left after all body fluids are gone whiche were hold by test, right ?
since you get some extral lbs which are slowly gone within weeks after last injection

[Big L Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Big L]

I find there are no fluids from tren no water weight
While your at it add masteron to the cycle And you will look more WONDERFUL and more full

[stallion Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close stallion]

Not intending to hijack this thread, but I have a few questions on this cycle that perhaps one of you experienced members could answer.

1. Since he has not run tren before, should he go the tren A route in case of sides?
2. Since it is his first time with tren, should it be dosed so high? In case of sides, lets use gyno for an example. Since the test and tren dosages are so close, how would one know whether any gyno symptoms are from the test or through the progesterone route of the tren?
3. There hasn't been any mention of the use of AI in this cycle. Would an experienced tren user keep caber or prami handy?
4. Is nolva a no-no for PCT after this cycle?

[Nature101 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nature101]

1- yes IMO
2- 50mg EOD for 2 weeks and then increase if needed. - as far as estro/progest- i look for a lot of thigs but basic checklist is soreness,itchy,puffy,lumps around the nipple occompanied by being moody/emotional. When running both compounds run adex and caber.
3. Yes. Always have your AIs stocked.
4. Ive been advised not to run nolva with tren.

@ mercury- bro, as you can tell most of us are used to being specific. I hate throwing rough numbers out there like a 10-20 lb gain. With any cycle you can expect that result. What we really try to focus on is MAXIMIZING our results and im sorry to say but * rough estimate* kinda sounds like * ehhh i'll settle for any old gain*. We want you to achieve things you didnt know possible. Thats why we ask for specifics about your body composition and yiur diet/training habits. You can be as vague as you want in your response but just keep in mind that around here- you get what you put in!

[mercury Banned Find all posts View Profile Close mercury]

1- yes IMO
We want you to achieve things you didnt know possible. Thats why we ask for specifics about your body composition and yiur diet/training habits. You can be as vague as you want in your response but just keep in mind that around here- you get what you put in!

I agree but I was too lazy write this all, I have good experiance with a lot of gear but not tren, I just wanted to try this and look better on the beach during summer that's all. Get my six pack back, it is hard too see now etc.

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

If your going to be lazy, then don't exspect to get the right answer or even the help for that matter. The word lazy is not to be used on this forum!!!!!

[stringer4545 Member Find all posts View Profile Close stringer4545]

i have alot of cycles under my belt,also with tren, i made the mistake and started it in the middle of last summer and ran the test n tren dosage the same, i couldnt eat much and had low energy, i got hard and strong and got a 6pack but broke out with boils on my legs.tren e 200mg/week test e 200mg/week. i wont make that same mistake this time,but as far as the guy that started this thread i would go 500mg test and 200mg tren the first cpl weeks to make sure u can handle it cause for me at that low dose my rage was crazy and i had to sleep with a fan on all night..good luck bro

[mercury Banned Find all posts View Profile Close mercury]

I find there are no fluids from tren no water weight
While your at it add masteron to the cycle And you will look more WONDERFUL and more full

how much masteron would you use ?

[Big L Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Big L]

400 mg Would be like icing on a cake

[mercury Banned Find all posts View Profile Close mercury]

let me ask beacuse I am a little short o money if I did

300 mg masteron a week
400 mg tren a week
750 mg test a week

and cut cycle to 10 weeks

I really do not want to waste my best 10 weeks of life and small results when I go to nude beach I do not want my dick to be the only attraction I need some meat all over the place to show to the chicks

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

I agree but I was too lazy write this all, I have good experiance with a lot of gear but not tren, I just wanted to try this and look better on the beach during summer that's all. Get my six pack back, it is hard too see now etc.

I'm guessing you don't have the experience you say you have, if you did you wouldn't be asking the questions your asking.