Getting second cycle decided, and i want your input

[ALEX.18 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ALEX.18]

Theres a thread in ai's and pct sub forum on the hcg.

Use the clen and t3 on cycle. T3 has a slight muscle wasting tendency to it. Read the sticky sam made in the aas sub forum.

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

I was going to, i just didn't know if it would be overboard.

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

I used T3 along with clen once and I lost a lot of muscle, I wont use it again.

[ALEX.18 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ALEX.18]

Nah bro. U good. Im about to start almost that exact cycle in a few weeks and im running it all. Var instead of proviron for me though

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

I can't wait to start. just waiting on a promo code for some % off my order.

[bigmurph Banned Find all posts View Profile Close bigmurph]

why dont you look into equipoise or primo with some test e or cyp and try a stronger oral or just stick with the t-bol or even anavar
BIGMURPH

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

i'm doing EQ bigmurph. I"m doing test e and eq along with tbol and provi.

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

Hmm so this is what its looking like then: Found a better deal on some super dmz 2.0 and dmz 15 rather than tbol, at a much cheaper price.

Cycle
Test E @ 600mg for 18 weeks
EQ @ 600mg for 16 weeks
Proviron @ 25mg per day 16 weeks
Super DMZ 2.0 @ 2 caps per day first four weeks
DMZ 15 @ 1-2 caps her day first four weeks
Oral Tren @ 500mcg per day last 3 weeks (completely dependant on my mid cycle bloodwork)
HCG @ 250IU 2 times a week for last 10 weeks

Cabaser on hand and Asin or Adex as needed, but proviron should keep estro sides in check

Training:
Right now I"m doing an upper body/lower body split
Monday: UB/cardio
Tuesday: cardio
Wednesday: LB/cardio
Thursday: cardio
Friday: UB/cardio
Saturday: LB/cardio
Sunday: Off

I will Most likely change to a 2 a day split routine on cycle.

Monday/Wednesday/Friday

Morning (Chest/Back/Abs)
Barbell Bench Press – 4 x 1 set of 15 rep warm up: Sets of 10,8,6,4 stripping last two sets
Barbell Incline Press – 4 x same as above
Dumbbell Flys – 3x 10,8,6
Parallel Bar Dips – 3 x 15,10,8
Pullovers – 3 x 15
Chin Ups – 4 x 10 min, use weights to increase resistance
Close-Grip Chins – 4 x 10
T-Bar Rows – 4 x 15,12,8,6
Bent-Over Barbell Rows – 4 x 8-12
Crunches – 3 x 25
Bent-Over Twists – 100 reps each side

Night (Thighs/Calves/Abs)
Donkey Calf Raises – 4 x 10
Standing Calf Raises – 4 x 15,10,8,8
Squats – 5 x 20 warm up, 10,8,6,4
Front Squats – 4 x 10,8,8,6
Hack Squats – 3 x 10
Leg Curls – 4 x 20,10,8,6
Standing Leg Curls – 4 x 10
Straight-Leg Deadlift – 3 x 10
Machine Crunches – 3 x 25
Crunches – 50 reps

Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday

Morning (Shoulders/Upper Arms/Abs
Behind-the-Neck Barbell Presses – 5 x 15 warm up, 10,8,8,6
Lateral Raises – 4 x 8
Bent-Over Dumbbell Laterals – 4 x 8
Dumbbell Shrugs – 3 x 10
Standing Barbell Curls – 5 x 15,10,8,6,4
Incline Dumbbell Curls – 4 x 8
Concentration Curls – 3 x 8
Lying Triceps Extension – 4 x 15,10,8,6
Triceps Cable Pressdown – 3 x 8
One-Arm Triceps Extension – 3 x 10
Reverse Crunches – 4 x 25

Night (Forearms/Calves/Abs)
Barbell Wrist Curls – 4 x 10
Reverse Wrist Curls – 3 x 10
Seated Calf Raises – 4 x 10
Seated twists – 100 reps each side
Vertical Bench Crunches – 4 x 25

Diet:
I'm making an appt with a dietitian to have a one over done of me, and then i'm going to base my macro's off of what the dietitian says.

[bigmurph Banned Find all posts View Profile Close bigmurph]

Dam bro that's a strong cycle I personally wouldn't go at it so hard but if you think you can handle it go for it I just want to say though run it by Sam he might have some better advice then I can give you and if you don't mind send me a pm on the SMS I don't know what it is and my next cycle is going to have t-Bol if it's about the same compound and cheaper give me some info on it I would really appreciate it.just be careful talking all of that cause sometimes less will get you more and make sure you take your liv-52 or milk thistle and all the other stuff you can to protect your body from sides post some before and after pics I'd love to see your progress
GOOD LUCK GETTING BIG Bro
BIGMUPH

[bigmurph Banned Find all posts View Profile Close bigmurph]

Hey bro I just looked up the dmz that you say your going to take and on the page it specifically says not to take other hormones with it and taking provision Ed through your cycle probally is not a good idea either take your test and eq and if you want even take tren ace but leave out the dmz and take the provision for 4wks during your pct you don't have to listen to me but I have to say it's not very safe or healthy. Take the test tren and eq and you will get huge and be very happy with the results and you will still have hair left and functioning kidneys and liver it's only your 2nd cycle after you finish this one bridge with anavar then get right back into it if you think your still not big or cut enough I would hate to see you fuck your body up permenitly
BIGMURPH
If you ever have any questions shoot me a pm and will talk

[Big L Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Big L]

Alittle while back i started a conversation on super dmz guess you didnt read it
You cant compare dmz to tbol not even close

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

Didn't come across it, no bro. But i'll look it up and read it.

[sagerboy87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sagerboy87]

Ah, super dmz, and super dmz 2.0 are two different things.

[ALEX.18 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ALEX.18]

Yea bro. Stick with t bol. I used gp tbol a few times. Felt like a god on it. Goddess in your case

[bishop22 Member Find all posts View Profile Close bishop22]

Ah, super dmz, and super dmz 2.0 are two different things.

I've ran them both.. They suck.
AAS > PH
Tbol is far superior