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  • #61
    Theres a thread in ai's and pct sub forum on the hcg.

    Use the clen and t3 on cycle. T3 has a slight muscle wasting tendency to it. Read the sticky sam made in the aas sub forum.
    "I COUNT HIM BRAVER WHO OVERCOMES HIS OWN DESIRE THAN WHO CONQUERS HIS ENEMIES, FOR THE HARDEST VICTORY IS OVER SELF"


    "SUCCESS ISN'T ALWAYS ABOUT GREATNESS. IT'S ABOUT CONSISTENCY. CONSISTENT HARD WORK GAINS SUCCESS. GREATNESS WILL COME"

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    • #62
      I was going to, i just didn't know if it would be overboard.

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      • #63
        I used T3 along with clen once and I lost a lot of muscle, I wont use it again.
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        • #64
          Nah bro. U good. Im about to start almost that exact cycle in a few weeks and im running it all. Var instead of proviron for me though
          "I COUNT HIM BRAVER WHO OVERCOMES HIS OWN DESIRE THAN WHO CONQUERS HIS ENEMIES, FOR THE HARDEST VICTORY IS OVER SELF"


          "SUCCESS ISN'T ALWAYS ABOUT GREATNESS. IT'S ABOUT CONSISTENCY. CONSISTENT HARD WORK GAINS SUCCESS. GREATNESS WILL COME"

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          • #65
            I can't wait to start. just waiting on a promo code for some % off my order.

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            • #66
              why dont you look into equipoise or primo with some test e or cyp and try a stronger oral or just stick with the t-bol or even anavar
              BIGMURPH

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              • #67
                i'm doing EQ bigmurph. I"m doing test e and eq along with tbol and provi.

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                • #68
                  Hmm so this is what its looking like then: Found a better deal on some super dmz 2.0 and dmz 15 rather than tbol, at a much cheaper price.

                  Cycle
                  Test E @ 600mg for 18 weeks
                  EQ @ 600mg for 16 weeks
                  Proviron @ 25mg per day 16 weeks
                  Super DMZ 2.0 @ 2 caps per day first four weeks
                  DMZ 15 @ 1-2 caps her day first four weeks
                  Oral Tren @ 500mcg per day last 3 weeks (completely dependant on my mid cycle bloodwork)
                  HCG @ 250IU 2 times a week for last 10 weeks

                  Cabaser on hand and Asin or Adex as needed, but proviron should keep estro sides in check

                  Training:
                  Right now I"m doing an upper body/lower body split
                  Monday: UB/cardio
                  Tuesday: cardio
                  Wednesday: LB/cardio
                  Thursday: cardio
                  Friday: UB/cardio
                  Saturday: LB/cardio
                  Sunday: Off

                  I will Most likely change to a 2 a day split routine on cycle.

                  Monday/Wednesday/Friday

                  Morning (Chest/Back/Abs)

                  Barbell Bench Press – 4 x 1 set of 15 rep warm up: Sets of 10,8,6,4 stripping last two sets
                  Barbell Incline Press – 4 x same as above
                  Dumbbell Flys – 3x 10,8,6
                  Parallel Bar Dips – 3 x 15,10,8
                  Pullovers – 3 x 15
                  Chin Ups – 4 x 10 min, use weights to increase resistance
                  Close-Grip Chins – 4 x 10
                  T-Bar Rows – 4 x 15,12,8,6
                  Bent-Over Barbell Rows – 4 x 8-12
                  Crunches – 3 x 25
                  Bent-Over Twists – 100 reps each side

                  Night (Thighs/Calves/Abs)
                  Donkey Calf Raises – 4 x 10
                  Standing Calf Raises – 4 x 15,10,8,8
                  Squats – 5 x 20 warm up, 10,8,6,4
                  Front Squats – 4 x 10,8,8,6
                  Hack Squats – 3 x 10
                  Leg Curls – 4 x 20,10,8,6
                  Standing Leg Curls – 4 x 10
                  Straight-Leg Deadlift – 3 x 10
                  Machine Crunches – 3 x 25
                  Crunches – 50 reps

                  Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday

                  Morning (Shoulders/Upper Arms/Abs
                  Behind-the-Neck Barbell Presses – 5 x 15 warm up, 10,8,8,6
                  Lateral Raises – 4 x 8
                  Bent-Over Dumbbell Laterals – 4 x 8
                  Dumbbell Shrugs – 3 x 10
                  Standing Barbell Curls – 5 x 15,10,8,6,4
                  Incline Dumbbell Curls – 4 x 8
                  Concentration Curls – 3 x 8
                  Lying Triceps Extension – 4 x 15,10,8,6
                  Triceps Cable Pressdown – 3 x 8
                  One-Arm Triceps Extension – 3 x 10
                  Reverse Crunches – 4 x 25

                  Night (Forearms/Calves/Abs)
                  Barbell Wrist Curls – 4 x 10
                  Reverse Wrist Curls – 3 x 10
                  Seated Calf Raises – 4 x 10
                  Seated twists – 100 reps each side
                  Vertical Bench Crunches – 4 x 25

                  Diet:
                  I'm making an appt with a dietitian to have a one over done of me, and then i'm going to base my macro's off of what the dietitian says.
                  sagerboy87
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                  Last edited by sagerboy87; 01-22-2013, 10:39 PM.

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                  • #69
                    Dam bro that's a strong cycle I personally wouldn't go at it so hard but if you think you can handle it go for it I just want to say though run it by Sam he might have some better advice then I can give you and if you don't mind send me a pm on the SMS I don't know what it is and my next cycle is going to have t-Bol if it's about the same compound and cheaper give me some info on it I would really appreciate it.just be careful talking all of that cause sometimes less will get you more and make sure you take your liv-52 or milk thistle and all the other stuff you can to protect your body from sides post some before and after pics I'd love to see your progress
                    GOOD LUCK GETTING BIG Bro
                    BIGMUPH

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                    • #70
                      Hey bro I just looked up the dmz that you say your going to take and on the page it specifically says not to take other hormones with it and taking provision Ed through your cycle probally is not a good idea either take your test and eq and if you want even take tren ace but leave out the dmz and take the provision for 4wks during your pct you don't have to listen to me but I have to say it's not very safe or healthy. Take the test tren and eq and you will get huge and be very happy with the results and you will still have hair left and functioning kidneys and liver it's only your 2nd cycle after you finish this one bridge with anavar then get right back into it if you think your still not big or cut enough I would hate to see you fuck your body up permenitly
                      BIGMURPH
                      If you ever have any questions shoot me a pm and will talk
                      bigmurph
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                      Last edited by bigmurph; 01-23-2013, 04:46 AM.

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                      • #71
                        Alittle while back i started a conversation on super dmz guess you didnt read it
                        You cant compare dmz to tbol not even close

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                        • #72
                          Didn't come across it, no bro. But i'll look it up and read it.

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                          • #73
                            Ah, super dmz, and super dmz 2.0 are two different things.

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                            • #74
                              Yea bro. Stick with t bol. I used gp tbol a few times. Felt like a god on it. Goddess in your case
                              "I COUNT HIM BRAVER WHO OVERCOMES HIS OWN DESIRE THAN WHO CONQUERS HIS ENEMIES, FOR THE HARDEST VICTORY IS OVER SELF"


                              "SUCCESS ISN'T ALWAYS ABOUT GREATNESS. IT'S ABOUT CONSISTENCY. CONSISTENT HARD WORK GAINS SUCCESS. GREATNESS WILL COME"

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by sagerboy87 View Post
                                Ah, super dmz, and super dmz 2.0 are two different things.
                                I've ran them both.. They suck.
                                AAS > PH
                                Tbol is far superior

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