Tren/Deca

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

You're gonna think i'm sick xamo but I actually get excited about pinning. I look forward to it. The pain is minimal and I get a placebo effect from it.

you're not alone. i know a lot of guys who like to pin. i used to like it. i think, to me, it was exciting because what i was taking was a means to help reach the goals i had set. after pinning enough times, EOD and ED, the thrill is gone. its more of a pain to me than anything else.

to the OP, i think these guys summed up the basics pretty well in the first few responses. keep it simple. start with test. maybe test and low dose oral kick start. learn how it effects you. build from there.

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

okay. so you guys are saying test e and eq would be plenty. i am guessing that i would want to add some mast and/or proviron and maybe some caber.... would that be a good cycle?

no real need for EQ in your first cycle. it takes a long time to take effect. that means 16 plus wks would be idea. for a first run, keep it down around 10 to 12 wks.

[ALEX.18 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ALEX.18]

besides tren and deca, are there any other products to stay away from as a beginner?

4 people telling u the same thing bro. Test e or c and a d or t bol