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First Cycle!! Comments please!!
5'11 160lb 11% bodyfat on Accumeasure (have nearly all of ectomorph characteristics)
2 years of lifting experience.
Been eating quite healthy for years, but been quite strict about it past year or so with macronutrients, 6 meals a day, 1-2 meals on average end up being fruit+nuts+protein shake when I'm at work(gotta be quick).
Working 60+ hours a week, somewhat physically demanding, I'm pretty sure my cortisol lvls r high
Haven't seen much improvement in terms of both size n strength in past half year, although I'm pretty sure I'm not at genetic max. Forcing to workout on preworkout supplements just seems to ruin my health somewhat now.
That's my profile so far. Here's my goals:
1. Increase strength, with help of AAS, strength that will stay with me after cycle's over which will help me breakthrough this plateau n keep me interested in bodybuilding.
2. Increase some lean mass.
3. Get experienced with AAS.
Here are my limitations:
1. I can't do needles. I have couple roommates as well as friends that will come over n make themselves comfortable. I do not want them to find out about this at all. Plus I'm very shy of needles.
2. I can't gain too much mass. Too much strength is fine, that's just what I would take, but I cannot take sudden big mass gain, I can't have people at job n friends find out about this.
3. Long hours at work, my recovery time will be somewhat inadequate, although I'll try to keep rest priority during cycle.
With all strong androgens n injectables eliminated, I have few left to mix n match with. Those are:
Anavar, Primobolan, Winstrol, Andriol.
Andriol is said to be very ineffective, that leaves me with other 3 with no test :x I have read hundreds of threads stressing that test should be base of all cycles but, that just can't be option for me. Anavar and Winstrol are both 17aa so taking both together would be hard on my liver, so I'll have to choose one. Primobolan is said to cause baldness at high rate so I'll definitely cross this one out.
Leaves me with anavar n Winstrol. I have seen a lot of "first cycle, Anavar only", many experienced members stressing test should be base and first cycle shouldn't be wasted using such flemsy AAS fact being first timer gets most gains, not cost effective etc.
Then again, for my goals and limitation, this seems to be what I can use, Anavar only cycle. I have quite a bit saved up to use so finance isn't an issue, and big gains in size in short time is definitely what I can't have.
Cycle I came up with is simple:
week 1-8 40mg/ED start, will up the dose up to 100/ED gradually every few days till i see effectiveness.
PCT week 1 40mg nolva
week 2-6 20mg nolva
And list of questions I have here I need to ask you guys because, informations I get from sources differ from one another n doesn't give me clear one.
1. How much would I be able to keep after this cycle in terms of %? roughly.
2. During cycle, if Test lvl falls low, people say I'll feel like shit. Describe this for me ><
3. My pct plan seems to be kind of long, but is it harmful to make it longer than necessary?
4. Milk thistle or Liv52, or both, and are they for during cycle, post cycle, or both. I hear some say it hinders AAS's performance, others say not.
Post got real long, but I've been planning this for quite a while with lot of researches. Good comments will be very appreciated, thanks guys in advance!!
2 years of lifting experience.
Been eating quite healthy for years, but been quite strict about it past year or so with macronutrients, 6 meals a day, 1-2 meals on average end up being fruit+nuts+protein shake when I'm at work(gotta be quick).
Working 60+ hours a week, somewhat physically demanding, I'm pretty sure my cortisol lvls r high
Haven't seen much improvement in terms of both size n strength in past half year, although I'm pretty sure I'm not at genetic max. Forcing to workout on preworkout supplements just seems to ruin my health somewhat now.That's my profile so far. Here's my goals:
1. Increase strength, with help of AAS, strength that will stay with me after cycle's over which will help me breakthrough this plateau n keep me interested in bodybuilding.
2. Increase some lean mass.
3. Get experienced with AAS.
Here are my limitations:
1. I can't do needles. I have couple roommates as well as friends that will come over n make themselves comfortable. I do not want them to find out about this at all. Plus I'm very shy of needles.
2. I can't gain too much mass. Too much strength is fine, that's just what I would take, but I cannot take sudden big mass gain, I can't have people at job n friends find out about this.
3. Long hours at work, my recovery time will be somewhat inadequate, although I'll try to keep rest priority during cycle.
With all strong androgens n injectables eliminated, I have few left to mix n match with. Those are:
Anavar, Primobolan, Winstrol, Andriol.
Andriol is said to be very ineffective, that leaves me with other 3 with no test :x I have read hundreds of threads stressing that test should be base of all cycles but, that just can't be option for me. Anavar and Winstrol are both 17aa so taking both together would be hard on my liver, so I'll have to choose one. Primobolan is said to cause baldness at high rate so I'll definitely cross this one out.
Leaves me with anavar n Winstrol. I have seen a lot of "first cycle, Anavar only", many experienced members stressing test should be base and first cycle shouldn't be wasted using such flemsy AAS fact being first timer gets most gains, not cost effective etc.
Then again, for my goals and limitation, this seems to be what I can use, Anavar only cycle. I have quite a bit saved up to use so finance isn't an issue, and big gains in size in short time is definitely what I can't have.
Cycle I came up with is simple:
week 1-8 40mg/ED start, will up the dose up to 100/ED gradually every few days till i see effectiveness.
PCT week 1 40mg nolva
week 2-6 20mg nolva
And list of questions I have here I need to ask you guys because, informations I get from sources differ from one another n doesn't give me clear one.
1. How much would I be able to keep after this cycle in terms of %? roughly.
2. During cycle, if Test lvl falls low, people say I'll feel like shit. Describe this for me ><
3. My pct plan seems to be kind of long, but is it harmful to make it longer than necessary?
4. Milk thistle or Liv52, or both, and are they for during cycle, post cycle, or both. I hear some say it hinders AAS's performance, others say not.
Post got real long, but I've been planning this for quite a while with lot of researches. Good comments will be very appreciated, thanks guys in advance!!
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