Clenbuterol?

[bigguy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigguy]

I have a few questions about Clen:
1.) Do you have to take a liver protectant with it?
2.) Is it safe to also take an Anti-Estrogen with it to reduce gyno results?
3.) What dosage would a person take of Clen a day and for how long?
LMK

[PushinWeight Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PushinWeight]

1. no
2. yes, but clen does not cause gyno if thats what you are getting at
3. its different from person to person, but most start ar 40 mcg's a day and work up to 120 mcgs. general rule of thumbs is 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. or u can take it without a break if you also take ketotifen or diphenhydramine with it

[Great8 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Great8]

As an add on to #3. I started with 60mcg the first day and didnt feel anything. I went to 80mcg the second then 100mcg the third. I found that 100mcg was the sweet spot for me. I tried to push my dose to 150mcg but this put a serious strain on my CNS and cause me to take some time off to rest myself 100%. Slowly ramp the dose up until you feel comfortable. I ran it 2 weeks on 1 week off. I tried the stay on and run ketotifen method but I found that coming off of it for a week and running keto / benadyrl gave me better results. Also drink a ton of water and pick up some L-Taurine to help with cramping.

[bigguy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigguy]

What would ketotifen or diphenhydramine do? and I read that losing weight can cause loss of gyno side effects.

[Great8 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Great8]

What would ketotifen or diphenhydramine do? and I read that losing weight can cause loss of gyno side effects.

Clen stimulates your beta-2 receptors. Well after time they become desensitize. By taking ketotifen or benadyrl it helps bring the sensitivity back to the beta-2 receptors.
There is a difference between gyno and just fat around your chest. If you do have gyno losing some weight may help the appearance but I dont think that would help it altogether.

[bigguy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigguy]

How much did you lose while on your Clen cycle? and just cycle that i with dieting and exercise?

[Great8 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Great8]

How much did you lose while on your Clen cycle? and just cycle that i with dieting and exercise?

I started at ~270lbs and got down to about 233lbs. This was over the course of about 4 months. I ran 4 cycles of clen. The first one was the most noticeable as it pulled a lot of water out of my body. I lost roughly 12 pounds my first clen cycle. And yes I was dieting and doing tons of cardio. I think of clen as just a helper when it comes to dropping some weight. I know too many guys who get on clen, t3, test prop, and tren and do little or no cardio and still eat like crap.

[bigguy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigguy]

Well if you were to design a "perfect stack" for weight loss what would it be? (All oral)

[hackleech Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close hackleech]

something like clen and a strong eca like Diablos Fire Caps would be pretty crazy if u can handle it btw these arent steroids incase u thought they were

[Great8 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Great8]

Well if you were to design a "perfect stack" for weight loss what would it be? (All oral)

I would just stick with Clen. I've never messed with t3 or anything else before. Your diet and training are what are going to be the deal breakers bottom line.