Cycle help please!

[abrown34809 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close abrown34809]

Alright guys so this is what I have..

20 weeks worth of gp test e at 500mg week
20 weeks worth of gp bold (eq) at 400mg week
15 weeks worth of gp proviron at 50mg Ed
5 weeks worth of gp dbol at 40mg Ed
5 weeks worth of gp Stan (oral) at 50mg Ed
I have clomid,nolva, and hcg on hand for pct


Could anybody help me set up a good Cycle that would be effective?
Stats are 26yrs old, 4 cycles (test,deca,dbol,pct)
Have a very strict diet, don't drink, trying to gain some
Lean mass. Currently 207lbs at 5'9". Would like to get up around 230 but
Not so watery like I've had on previous cycles. Yes I know it's mainly about diet but I thought you guys could help me set up a quick plan. What I have above is all I have. I appreciate the help! Oh and the reason I have so many weeks worth of test and eq is because I never ever really got a straight answer from anybody on how long to run the eq. So I figured more is better than comin up short, I could always use the rest on my next cycle. Thanks fellas

[F.I.S.T. Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close F.I.S.T.]

Alright guys so this is what I have..

20 weeks worth of gp test e at 500mg week
20 weeks worth of gp bold (eq) at 400mg week
15 weeks worth of gp proviron at 50mg Ed
5 weeks worth of gp dbol at 40mg Ed
5 weeks worth of gp Stan (oral) at 50mg Ed
I have clomid,nolva, and hcg on hand for pct


Could anybody help me set up a good Cycle that would be effective?
Stats are 26yrs old, 4 cycles (test,deca,dbol,pct)
Have a very strict diet, don't drink, trying to gain some
Lean mass. Currently 207lbs at 5'9". Would like to get up around 220 but
Not so watery like I've had on previous cycles. Yes I know it's mainly about diet but I thought you guys could help me set up a quick plan. What I have above is all I have. I appreciate the help! Oh and the reason I have so many weeks worth of test and eq is because I never ever really got a straight answer from anybody on how long to run the eq. So I figured more is better than comin up short, I could always use the rest on my next cycle. Thanks fellas

Well you basically have it planned out already by reading your post.

Test @500mg EW(250 mg twice a wk) for 20 wks.
EQ @ 400MG EW(200mg twice a wk) for 18 wks--so pct timing is correct
Dbol @ 40mg ed for 5 wks
Stan @ 50mg ed for last 5 wks

I would add some adex in the cycle at .5mg eod and the prov I would save for another cycle.IMHO,there is no need for it with this cycle.

As for the very strict diet,just make sure you're getting in enough cals to bulk up.At 5'9 207 you'd probably be gtg with at least 3500 cals a day to make gains depending on your other daily activities,i.e. sports,physical labor at job,etc.Dont worry about gaining some fat.if you're trying to bulk,then its inevitable.Just keep the cals relatively clean and you'll keep bf% low.

[abrown34809 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close abrown34809]

Thanks fist. But yeah by strict I meant atleast 4000 Cals at about 2gram protein per lb.
So no proviron then eh? I was always told that it will make your test a bit more useful
And also harden ya up a bit. But I'm gonna trust ya. I respond very harshly sust to deca (my previous cycles). I
Get bloated so bad. My diet was in tune too. I was bulking so I wasn't too worried about it but the moon
Face kills me haha I got up to 247 on a 10weeker. So this is why I'm trying out the eq. I def want to bulk but maybe just a little
More quality of a bulk. Thanks again for your help fist. Any other critiques or opinions throw em my way, I want this cycle to produce some
Good gains.

[F.I.S.T. Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close F.I.S.T.]

Cool,then with that as a calorie goal you should make out fine.

As for the bloat,like I said,add some adex in there and it will keep the water weight in check.Good luck brother and welcome to JM.

[abrown34809 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close abrown34809]

Okay I'll pick that up for sure. Thanks for the welcome bro.
The main critique im getting is 20 weeks is too long and will shut me down
Too hard. Any opinions on that? Should my pct be set up a little different?

[F.I.S.T. Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close F.I.S.T.]

20wks is a long cycle especially with this only being your 4th cycle but if you run the hcg during the end of your cycle and into pct you should be fine.

[abrown34809 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close abrown34809]

Okay awesome. How would you run the hcg with the doses and time? Sorry but it'll be my
First with hcg

[LinoZ100 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close LinoZ100]

Dam! 20 weeks! Hmmmmmmm.............as soon as I'm done with the lean bulk blitz from N***, I'm gonna try this shit. Of course after I give my body a rest and doing the proper PCT, and blood work. Yo Abrown! Let us know how it goes with this cycle! I want to maybe try it in the winter time.

[abrown34809 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close abrown34809]

I'll keep ya posted bro lol I was actually gonna buy the lean bulk
Blitz but I wanna save the tren for later cycles down the road. But yea man I'll log my progress
For sure. Have fun with yours too, it looked like a fun cycle I'm
Just still skeptical of the tren haha later bro

[Bordy Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Bordy]

20 weeks is a long one. I would cut it to 16. Finishing up a similar cycle-750 mg/wk test, 600 mg/week eq, 50 mg/ed of winny. Very pleased with the results. Only have enough for 12 weeks, though. 16 would've been perfect.

[abrown34809 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close abrown34809]

Bordy- 16 weeks was my original plan. I too think 20 is too
Long. But I've got so many mixed reviews on how eq takes so long to kick
In.. But 16 weeks is what I think I'm gonna go with. Thanks for the advice bro

[F.I.S.T. Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close F.I.S.T.]

Okay awesome. How would you run the hcg with the doses and time? Sorry but it'll be my
First with hcg

Sorry for the late reply,had to hit the gym.Heres a great read on pct with Nolva,Clomid and HCG....http://juicedmuscle.com/showthread.p...olva-vs-Clomid

[Dan Duchaine Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Dan Duchaine]

i tink if you feel you can go with 20wks then no problem, and for the bloat use aromasin at 12,5mg ed and 10mg nolva ed this is much better then adex in alot of aspects. and for the pct i also preffer nolva clomid, and hcg at 500iu ed subQ for 2 wks this has worked best for me.

[F.I.S.T. Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close F.I.S.T.]

i tink if you feel you can go with 20wks then no problem, and for the bloat use aromasin at 12,5mg ed and 10mg nolva ed this is much better then adex in alot of aspects. and for the pct i also preffer nolva clomid, and hcg at 500iu ed subQ for 2 wks this has worked best for me.

This is a relatively mild cycle so adex will be sufficient to control bloat.

[abrown34809 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close abrown34809]

Awesome article thanks fist. And yea dan I def wanna do 20wks I think I'd get some
Decent gains in that time, I think the best option
Is to just run it till atleast wk 16 and see how I feel. Having only ran 10 wk cycles it intimidates me some though. Thanks for the advice
Guys I appreciate it