how long before sides effects start showing

[lc1213 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close lc1213]

just out of curiosity, if a person is gonna have side effects such as gyno from steroids, how soon would symptoms show? in my case, i have finished my 1st week of 500mg of test ent. so far nothing, no itchy nipples or anything. might be to early right now. i know sides are different for every person and differernt doses/steroids but would like to get some of your feedback, if and when sides begin to show.

[Dbolli Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dbolli]

The test wont kick in till week 3 or 4. Im prone to gyno. I wont get itchy nips until week 6.

[Nephilim Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nephilim]

You'll know when it starts. Yer nips will get all sensitive. I can regulate it pretty well with .5 adex eod or e3d. It's a balancing act, you don't want to bottom out your estradiol levels. You need some. By week 8 get your blood checked and see where your numbers come in.

[atavist Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close atavist]

it's very individual.. I had no signs of gyno but between 7 and 10 days on test I got all puffy... face, lips hands were noticably swollen... i just told people it was an allergy... after that I never saw any signs of gyno but dosed .5adex once a week just to make sure and stay hard.

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

I usually do .5 Adex EOD. After about the second week on 800mg of test I start to retain some water, so I just pop an extra .5 Adex for that day and it's subsides. Never see the Gyno ether.

[lc1213 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close lc1213]

Do you cycle the adex for the duration of your cycle? I dont have any adex on hand right now. Gonna get some soon. Once I have it, should I start using it with my cycle or wait and see if I have any sides?

[Nephilim Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nephilim]

I wouldnt start anything until you got the proper stuff on hand. What do u have for pct?

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

I agree with Nephilim, .5mg EOD is a good starting point you can adjust as needed, you would start everything the same day, thats why Nephilim says wait till you have everything on hand. If you've started your cycle already then diffidently start the Adex ASAP. You will do the Adex for the whole cycle and at lest 10 day to 2 week after you finish your cycle.

[football09 Member Find all posts View Profile Close football09]

I agree with Nephilim, .5mg EOD is a good starting point you can adjust as needed, you would start everything the same day, thats why Nephilim says wait till you have everything on hand. If you've started your cycle already then diffidently start the Adex ASAP. You will do the Adex for the whole cycle and at lest 10 day to 2 week after you finish your cycle.

I agree 1000%. Also, I would have Letro on hand just in case. I always ran 0.5 Arimidex eod had no problem up tell this cycle and wammm gyno I then used Letro and it knocked it right out. Letro is wayyyyyy stronger then Arimidex!!!

[lc1213 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close lc1213]

Nolva for a pct. Has anyone tried the liquid form amiridex?

[ment to juice Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ment to juice]

Imo I would have all of them on hand cause somethings don't work for everyone once u start getting sides specialy gyno u want to stop it dead in its tracks

[Nephilim Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nephilim]

This is my opinion, which we all no is like assholes, everyone's got one, I would have HCG on hand, proviron, vitamin C, clen and adex for your pct. My last cycle, I gained 22 pounds and lost 4. This cycle I'm 9 weeks into and I've not gained really on the scale but my lofting is up 40# so far on all sets and immstarting to lean down now. I'm carrying quite a bit of bf yet. I've just started to intensify cardio. I don't know how long of a cycle you are going to run but it is detrimentally important to get blood blood checked at least every 8 weeks. Then 4-6 weeks post cycle. I just had mine done and I'm right on with my numbers. Even my liver values are within tolerance and I ran 100 mg of dbol the first 6 weeks of cycle. I also take 1000 mg milk thistle Dailey. Doing this shit is serious business and you got to have everything down before you poke. I researched for months before the first pin hit my ass. Don't take this as a scolding either I just want you healthy at the end. I'm sure everybody here would agree.

[football09 Member Find all posts View Profile Close football09]

This is my opinion, which we all no is like assholes, everyone's got one, I would have HCG on hand, proviron, vitamin C, clen and adex for your pct. My last cycle, I gained 22 pounds and lost 4. This cycle I'm 9 weeks into and I've not gained really on the scale but my lofting is up 40# so far on all sets and immstarting to lean down now. I'm carrying quite a bit of bf yet. I've just started to intensify cardio. I don't know how long of a cycle you are going to run but it is detrimentally important to get blood blood checked at least every 8 weeks. Then 4-6 weeks post cycle. I just had mine done and I'm right on with my numbers. Even my liver values are within tolerance and I ran 100 mg of dbol the first 6 weeks of cycle. I also take 1000 mg milk thistle Dailey. Doing this shit is serious business and you got to have everything down before you poke. I researched for months before the first pin hit my ass. Don't take this as a scolding either I just want you healthy at the end. I'm sure everybody here would agree.

I agree well said!!!! I would just have Letro just in case. Blood testing so soooooo important and over looked so much. People think oh my balls are back in size I am ok NOOOOO you may still be shut down but a blood test will def tell you whats going on. I get three blood tests per cycle min. one before, during and after!!!! Heck I just had one 3 weeks in because I was having nipple soreness and I wanted to see what the fuck was up and I def found out what it was when I got my results!!!

[lc1213 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close lc1213]

This is my opinion, which we all no is like assholes, everyone's got one, I would have HCG on hand, proviron, vitamin C, clen and adex for your pct. My last cycle, I gained 22 pounds and lost 4. This cycle I'm 9 weeks into and I've not gained really on the scale but my lofting is up 40# so far on all sets and immstarting to lean down now. I'm carrying quite a bit of bf yet. I've just started to intensify cardio. I don't know how long of a cycle you are going to run but it is detrimentally important to get blood blood checked at least every 8 weeks. Then 4-6 weeks post cycle. I just had mine done and I'm right on with my numbers. Even my liver values are within tolerance and I ran 100 mg of dbol the first 6 weeks of cycle. I also take 1000 mg milk thistle Dailey. Doing this shit is serious business and you got to have everything down before you poke. I researched for months before the first pin hit my ass. Don't take this as a scolding either I just want you healthy at the end. I'm sure everybody here would agree.

im running a 10 week cycle of test e 500 mg per week. i hung around on forums, did research for a few months before i jumped into it but i am learning a hell of a lot more than i thought i knew. i appreciate the feedback i recieve. i don't consider it a scolding, just constructive criticism. just some of this stuff gets confusing. i asked other individuals before i started on different forums about running an AI pre, during or post cycle. yes i should during, no you dont need it, or wait to see what sides you have. hard to get a straight answer. the overall outcome is that i want to get my body back to normal after my cycle, limit my sides and retain most of my gains. i should have waited til i had everything on hand to start but if hindsight was 20/20. i have nolva and i was informed that should be fine to have for a first cycle. i am getting me some chlomid, amiritex, and letro here asap to have those as an addition to my nolva.

on another note, i read that running an AI such as amiritex at .25 ml eod would help me retain more of my gains in the end and help suppress the possibility of gyno and water retention. care to respond?

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

on another note, i read that running an AI such as amiritex at .25 ml eod would help me retain more of my gains in the end and help suppress the possibility of gyno and water retention. care to respond?

Just as I said in the other post, it will help and thats why I'll pop another .5mg on a day that i'm not scheduled to take it, if I'm retaining more water than I care to. Now you said "i read that running an AI such as amiritex at .25 ml eod". You can try that low of dose and see if that works for you, but I would start at .5mg EOD and adjust from there. jm2c