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    Okay guys need some input for my first cycle of real gear! I've used my fair share of pro-hormones in the past, so I feel it's time for the next step. I've come up with a cycle (that in my opinion looks pretty solid) but if I can get some input on what you all think it would be much appreciated.

    In this cycle (going to run in October) I'm looking to put on some quality lean mass (lean bulk for the most part) Increasing my calories yet keeping them clean. My current stats are 5'10 198lbs. 34 years of age been lifting on and off since I was 14 been lifting continuously for the last 5 years, didn't use my first pro-hormone until I was 30.


    So here's what I'm looking at:

    GP Test CYP 250

    weeks 1-10 500mg/ week

    GP Dbol
    weeks 1-4 30mg/ day

    GP Anavar
    weeks 5-10 60mg/ day

    Pct will consist of clomid dosed 50/50/50/50

    And I was thinking of taking 10mg of nolva before bed while on cycle, I'm not prone to gyno but one can never be to careful. (any thoughts)?

    Also this will be my first time pinning, a little nervous about the whole process I was thinking that my glutes would be the best spot to pin but any pointers or advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.
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  • #2
    You can save yourself some cash and drop the anavar.....The test and the dbol together will be one hell of a first cycle....I like those doses stay there bro...it all looks good and the glutes are fine but try and work yourself up to outside quads and shoulders too

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    • #3
      drop the anavar like limo said.
      im running same cycle running .5mg of strozel EOD using nolva 40/20/20/20 for PCT
      i get pretty bad gyno flares though, everyones diff

      looks good though bro.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by limo View Post
        You can save yourself some cash and drop the anavar.....The test and the dbol together will be one hell of a first cycle....I like those doses stay there bro...it all looks good and the glutes are fine but try and work yourself up to outside quads and shoulders too
        Thanks for the input bro, I'll drop the anavar if it's not beneficial to the cycle. So basically have a rotation going, hitting glutes one week shoulders one week and outside quad one week?
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        • #5
          Appreciate the input Johnwayne.
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          • #6
            Like the cycle, nolva is a good idea and I would add the anavar, melts fat, especially if you're older and is a nice mild compound. Be sure to eat lots of proteine-rich food and you're fatpercentage decides how much carbs and fats (omega3-6). I would add creatine after work-out too. In syrup to increase the insulinpeak and as a vehicle to transport the creatine

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            • #7
              i've read Clomid can cause eye problems, and Nolva is strong enough on smaller cycles.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RonnyT View Post
                Like the cycle, nolva is a good idea and I would add the anavar, melts fat, especially if you're older and is a nice mild compound. Be sure to eat lots of proteine-rich food and you're fatpercentage decides how much carbs and fats (omega3-6). I would add creatine after work-out too. In syrup to increase the insulinpeak and as a vehicle to transport the creatine
                Appreciate the input RonnyT, that's what I was thinking as well about the anavar. I figured since it does aid in melting fat away as well as putting on quality lean mass it would be ideal for rounding off the dbol, which from what I understand does add some fluid (although I don't really have much body fat I stay lean year round for the most part the highest I'll go it about 12% and that's in the winter when I cut out cardio and bulk). As for as the creatine goes I take this post work out drink called Myozene by Bioquest awesome product if you get a chance look it up, it has hydrolyzed protein as well as creatine and array of other essential products that creates and insulin spike.
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                • #9
                  I'd go the AI route on cycle, and Armidex does this very effectively at .25mg ed or .5mg eod.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RonnyT View Post
                    Like the cycle, nolva is a good idea and I would add the anavar, melts fat, especially if you're older and is a nice mild compound. Be sure to eat lots of proteine-rich food and you're fatpercentage decides how much carbs and fats (omega3-6). I would add creatine after work-out too. In syrup to increase the insulinpeak and as a vehicle to transport the creatine
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RonnyT View Post
                      Like the cycle, nolva is a good idea and I would add the anavar, melts fat, especially if you're older and is a nice mild compound. Be sure to eat lots of proteine-rich food and you're fatpercentage decides how much carbs and fats (omega3-6). I would add creatine after work-out too. In syrup to increase the insulinpeak and as a vehicle to transport the creatine
                      Hey RonnyT I've been doing some more research and I was wondering would it be better to replace the 10mg of nolva before bed with 25mg of Aromasin a day?
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                      • #12
                        After getting every ones input of my cycle consisting of dbol & Anavar I've decided to pull the Anavar and replace it with Primobolan.

                        And instead of the nolva at night I decided to use Aromasin @ 25mg a day


                        So here's what I'm looking at:

                        GP Test CYP 250
                        weeks 1-10 500mg/ week

                        GP Dbol
                        weeks 1-4 30mg/ day

                        GP Primobolan
                        weeks 5-10 300mg/ week

                        Pct will consist of clomid dosed 100/50/50/50

                        Instead of nolva before bed :
                        Aromasin 25mg/day


                        Any thoughts about the changes?
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                        • #13
                          Any thoughts on the changes?
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                          • #14
                            all im going to say is........advice can be deadly.....now your changing what was a good cycle...everyone has their own preference for running cycles. There really isn't the perfect cycle out there. The reason is every person reacts in a different manner to the same compound. I said drop the anavar because I've never liked it. That doesn't mean I'm right or wrong...I just dont like anavar. Some people will tell you to stay away from Anadrol, I on the other hand would tell you to go for it. Take 2 a day and watch how large you get...but then that drug might not be for you. I've never had acne before until I did Test Suspension, and I've run over 1,000mg of test a week. Something in the suspension didn't agree with me. You on the other hand might love suspension...see where i'm going with this. You gotta find what works for you and go with it. Your initial cycle was a good one bro dont complicate things

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by limo View Post
                              all im going to say is........advice can be deadly.....now your changing what was a good cycle...everyone has their own preference for running cycles. There really isn't the perfect cycle out there. The reason is every person reacts in a different manner to the same compound. I said drop the anavar because I've never liked it. That doesn't mean I'm right or wrong...I just dont like anavar. Some people will tell you to stay away from Anadrol, I on the other hand would tell you to go for it. Take 2 a day and watch how large you get...but then that drug might not be for you. I've never had acne before until I did Test Suspension, and I've run over 1,000mg of test a week. Something in the suspension didn't agree with me. You on the other hand might love suspension...see where i'm going with this. You gotta find what works for you and go with it. Your initial cycle was a good one bro dont complicate things
                              I'm not changing my cycle based on just one persons comments, I'm changing my cycle based on research and some important facts that where pointed out to me from others that commented on my post. The fact is that two methylated orals can be harsh on the liver, so the question at hand is it worth the risk, do I have more to gain by adding anavar or am I putting unnecessary strain on my liver. Upon further research it appears that the addition of Primobolan would be a better option. Again I say appears because I'm going with whats on paper, this will be my first cycle of real gear and from my understanding the first one is your best one, so I just want to ensure that my cycle aids in accomplishing my goals ( to put on quality lean mass ) without taking unnecessary foolish risk.
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