Is this Norma Deca real?

[bigmatt Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigmatt]

I believe these are legit but wish to confirm with experts like Ronny.

[JuicedUK Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JuicedUK]

These look good to me. I have some of these and they are identical to mine. The batch numbers are ok from what I see. I'm no expert and as you say ronnyT is your guy on this but I think GTG.

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

don't think so

Its hard to see from this pictures but I believe I see stars in your lable that means they are not real. There are a few other things that show fake/real. The watermark from the pharmacysticker and the unique number (every box has its own number) fakes all have the same number. Ther is also one fake that has a split stopper. The counterfeiter improves his knowledge, in this fake you see that the manufacturing year and manufacturing month and the xpirydate on the fake lable are complete nonsense.

The real lable has the logo of Norma in the lable the fakes show stars

[bigmatt Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigmatt]

Its hard to see from this pictures but I believe I see stars in your lable that means they are not real. There are a few other things that show fake/real. The watermark from the pharmacysticker and the unique number (every box has its own number) fakes all have the same number. Ther is also one fake that has a split stopper. The counterfeiter improves his knowledge, in this fake you see that the manufacturing year and manufacturing month and the xpirydate on the fake lable are complete nonsense.

The real lable has the logo of Norma in the lable the fakes show stars

Ronny thanks for the reply. I looked at my labels again and the hologram label has the Norma logo but at the end where the lot # is etc there is a star on the label. Only 1 star. Does this confirm they are fake?

[goanywhere Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close goanywhere]

Amazing. Usually I can see it - once pointed out. But not always.

Great Job Ronny!

[bigmatt Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigmatt]

Amazing. Usually I can see it - once pointed out. But not always.

Great Job Ronny!

Ronny is the expert for sure.

The only thing that is getting me is the holographic label has both stars and the Norms Hellas logo. I googled and people are saying it is meant to have stars and the logo which mine has. I will try and get a better pic and hopefully capture the Norma logo. Near everything says it is real except the hologram?
I would hope these are legit. My source posted up him holding the Norma vials in front of 20 factory boxes of Norma Deca with his name wrote on the boxes for proof.

[JuicedUK Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JuicedUK]

On the last pic bigmatt posted I thought I could see the norma circle holograms, I cant see stars. But I am looking on my iPhone so that doesn't help.

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

several

If you recieved the vials with boxes you have the change to check the numbering, the leaflet the watermark etc. When I check optical (without laboratory analysis) I also check the label - glue it - scan it etc the same with the vial imprint - oil colours you name it. As you can see at the comparison Savvas likes to change the appearence of Norma once and a while drasticly. I have some recent samples and I can check if they added stars.

Thus hold your boxes underneath a tanningbed and see if the EOF lable shows the watermark. Check id all boxes have different numbers and let us know.

My friend has tried to reach them via Skype because I have seen some pictures from boxes etc that will shock the company. The same thing with Norma test. Thats not what they planned.

[JuicedUK Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JuicedUK]

I have a horrible feeling mine might also be fake. They look identical to bigmatts. The have the Norma watermarks, dates are good, oil is really thick, the numbers match each corresponding box but each box is unique. BUT i bought a UV pen off ebay and there is no hologram on the label on the box.

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

new

Checked last Sunday the new labels by UV scan, the new labels have only a tiny watermark in the middle of the sticker in red EO. You need to turn the box over and over.
You are still looking to find those beautifull old watermarks, but they've changed them to my regret.


What I also did was finding out about the stars. I was told they where shining when the lable is lighted under a certain angle. I scanned a lable from the labelrol from the company and I've never seen it before ..but it also contains stars ..stupid..

[JuicedUK Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JuicedUK]

Thanks for the pics ronny. They are really helpful. Ill take a closer look at mine later.

[bigmatt Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigmatt]

I do not have the boxes... I asked for them but never got any as source said it would make the packages to big and risk getting caught.

So we are all in confirmation that these are fake?

[JuicedUK Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JuicedUK]

Not necessarily. Ronny's last post stated that the new ones have norma logo and stars like yours. I dont know, has ronny confirmed something specific about your that say fake. I think he was just listing the signs to look out for.

[van bilderass Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close van bilderass]

If a Norma vial looks good but has this Lot/Exp. it's fake for sure?

L 1009284
E 09 2010

It's always year of manufacture for the first 2 numbers and it should expire 2 years later?

Thanks.

[JuicedUK Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JuicedUK]

If a Norma vial looks good but has this Lot/Exp. it's fake for sure?



It's always year of manufacture for the first 2 numbers and it should expire 2 years later?

Thanks.

His are Jun 10 manufactured and Jun 12 exp with the batch no being 044 so this part looks ok.