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[biggerthanu Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close biggerthanu]

Hey guys,
I'm 35 years old, 6'5" tall and weigh 260 lbs. I'm almost done with my current cycle which consists of 1500 mg of test E per week, 1000 mg of deca per week, and 200 mg of dbol per week. What do you guys suggest I do for PCT ??? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

[fe203man Member Find all posts View Profile Close fe203man]

.....really you just intook that much gear and are unprepared for the most important step id start researching now, I can't help u im a trt guy

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

Your doing that much gear and you don't know what to do for a PCT. No help from me, your liver must look like a fuckin rasin.

[Pauliuch Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pauliuch]

Hi, the reason the guys are alarmed is that your doses are extremely high even for a pro bodybuilder. Just to be sure, you did say 1500 test and 1000 deca? That would be about 6cc in the needle total per week of each. Is this what you did? If so how long and where did you come up with those doses? Also how many cycles have you done? Have you been taking ai's and I'm scared to ask about side effects, lol.

[biggerthanu Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close biggerthanu]

Hey guys, thanks for the reply's. The reason I am asking is because my supplier only gave me 30 20mg tabs of nolvadex for pct. He has helped many of my friends with their cycles and they haven't had any issues so I trusted him. I've done prob a half dozen cycles over the past 12 years and never had any issues. This is my first cycle with this guy and yes it seemed crazy to me too but he said this would produce huge gains. To be honest I'm not that impressed. I've definitely had better cycles in the past. I'm trying to learn more about what I'm doing instead of just listening to these peckerheads because I don't think they really care if they fuck me up or not. Anyway, yes he has me doin 2cc's of test mon wed and fri and 2cc's of deca tues and thurs. The dbol is 7 days a week, 2 tabs in the am and 2 in the afternoon. I have no side effects as of now. No anger issues (which I've had in the past cycles), very little acne, over all I feel great. I know the gear he got me came from NAPS and its all GP stuff. Next week will finish this cycle. What should I do ? And to Mr. Big>>>> you too were learning once upon a time. Don't be a dick, if you don't want to help me then don't. There are a lot of members here who actually post very good info and to all of you, thank you!

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

It's called stupidity, I was there once yes, but I did my research before I stuck myself with shit that I didn't know what the fuck it was or knew what the fuck I was doing. The guy that you got your gear from was only interested and making as much money off you as he could. I might have been a dick but you deserve it, you didn't do any research (don't tell me you did because you would not have asked the question you did) to find that the amount of gear you where doing was just crazy. We get so many guys here like yourself and it gets very frustrating for us to help guys like you that wont help yourself before you start something. So please try to understand my frustration with you! If you come away with just one thing from here, remember that when it comes to using gear, less is more!!!!!! There are SO MANY threads on PCT's here, it's crazy, just do a search and you should find what you need to know.

My advise to you is try and stay off the gear for one year and then if you want to use again, start with a low cycle!! Health and money wise you'll be way better off.

[Nature101 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nature101]

I am with MrBig on this one dude- you need to research before you go adding a bunch of AAS. If you have had 1/2 dozen cycles then you should know your PCT. I am assuming since you do not know the proper PCT now after 6 cycles- you prob have had some issues with your test / libido. Also, if you are taking in that much gear without side effects- the gear is prob junk. I don't know of a human who can take 2500mgs of gear without sides. Furthermore- if you are not seeing results with that amount of gear- your diet or training must be out of whack( most likely your diet).

No Knowledge of PCT- mega dosing AAS ( destroying your liver) and diet. 3 major things that need improvement.

I'm not going to tell you what PCT to run becaus the info on this site is very substantial. Too much knowledge out there that it has become overly redundant. There is a search bar available- try that.

To everyone who is reading this- look at this prime example of what NOT to do. 3 major DO NOTS are:

Do not listen Or take advice from stupid peckerheads who deal AAS in the black market- they are retarted

Do not even think about running a cycle without dialing in your diet, training, PROPER CYCLE DOSAGES, and PCT ( spend a lot of time on this, half hearted effort here will lead to half hearted results and most likely illness or injury)

Do not ever begin a cycle without getting your lab values checked for safety reasons- same goes for end of PCT, do not start another cycle without labs.

-Nature

[biggerthanu Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close biggerthanu]

Nature, it's not that I'm not seeing results. I'm just not seeing the results that I thought I should see. As far as getting my labs done, what do you guys tell your doctor ? My dr is kind of a dick and I don't see being honest with him as an option but maybe. What specifically do I ask him to check for ?

Do any of you guys "cruise" ? Just keep injecting a low dose of test c during your off cycle ? This is another thing he told me to do. I haven't seen where anyone has said anything about this.

Mr. Big, I followed your advice and threw away all my gear. I will stay off for a while and see what happens. My only concern is that now my body is going to crash.

Thanks everyone for the comments and advice. I will learn and grow from your criticism

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

Are you doing a pct, you need to after all that gear!!!!

If you can't be honest with your Doc cause he's a dick then you need to find another one. I tell my Doc EVERYTHING, he doesn't like it, but he knows I'm going to do what I want too, so he helps me. You didn't have to throw the gear away, you could have saved it for later. What I'm saying is get back to normal levels and away from the gear. If you go at lest one year you should be able to start back with normal doses and get good results. As for cruising, there should be no reson why you need to, unless your a Pro BBér or if your on TRT - HRT. I'm on TRT myself so when I'm done with my cycle I just start back on my TRT which is 300mg's EW.

[ds222 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ds222]

Hi, the reason the guys are alarmed is that your doses are extremely high even for a pro bodybuilder. Just to be sure, you did say 1500 test and 1000 deca? That would be about 6cc in the needle total per week of each. Is this what you did? If so how long and where did you come up with those doses? Also how many cycles have you done? Have you been taking ai's and I'm scared to ask about side effects, lol.

hate to break it to you but pro bbs are doing way more than that along with a shit ton of other stuff...while the dbol is a little high, the other stuff is no where near the extreme you think it is

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

hate to break it to you but pro bbs are doing way more than that along with a shit ton of other stuff...while the dbol is a little high, the other stuff is no where near the extreme you think it is

It is for someone who says this, "I've done prob a half dozen cycles over the past 12 years"
I bet most of the guys here are not even using close to this much gear!!!

[biggerthanu Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close biggerthanu]

Hey Big, thanks for the input once again !! I read your post the other day and took most of the stuff out of the garbage. The gear that was open like the one bottle of deca and one bottle of test I chucked. I figured once a bottle is open I shouldn't leave it layin around for a year and then try to use it again. So what's your opinion on HGH big? Should I stay away from that for a year as well ? I did have my test levels checked like 2 years ago when I hadn't touched any gear in a while and it was low but he wanted to have 3 low test results before he would do anything about it and I never had it checked again. I will keep reading as much as my time allows and I'm sure I will have more questions but thanks for the help mr big

Big, when u say ur on 300mg's EW as TRT what do u take for your TRT ? And why ? Because of low free test ? Thanks

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

So what's your opinion on HGH big? Should I stay away from that for a year as well ?

No you can try HGH, but it's expensive and you'll need to stay on it for at lest 6 months before you see results.

Big, when u say ur on 300mg's EW as TRT what do u take for your TRT ? And why ? Because of low free test ?

I take 300mg's of Test Cypionate every week and yes at my age I have low test levels. I've been on TRT for about 5-6 years now.

[biggerthanu Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close biggerthanu]

Thanks Big !!! I am going to try hgh but I'll do my homework first this time. Have you played with hgh ? If so, do you have any advice that you can share with me before I try this ?

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

Thanks Big !!! I am going to try hgh but I'll do my homework first this time. Have you played with hgh ? If so, do you have any advice that you can share with me before I try this ?

Yes, I've used it a few times.
Just make sure that you keep everything clean when you go to inject and when you reconstitute (I like to use Bacteriostatic Water) the HGH, DO NOT SHAKE THE VIAL, us a swirling motion. Once you have reconstituted the HGH, you'll need to store it in the refrigerator. Also start with 2iu's and work your way up to your desired dose. You can do a cycle of 5 days on 2 days off, most guys including myself go Monday thru Friday and then off Saturday and Sunday. Not sure if you knew but HGH is injected subcutaneously, which just means under the skin. This is just a very few things that I've I mentioned here, do your research and when your done you should feel confident enough to know what your doing. Good luck brother, keep us up to date!!