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    I have with my past 4 cycles been able to recover using hcg towards the end of cycle and taking anastrozole alone for PCT. I've had people question me on this and actually tell me that adex was only a AI and did not do anything for increasing test levels even though my blood work shows my test back in normal range after a pct with it. So I wanted to post this article that shows studies that anastrozole has been proven to increase test levels and in some cases it along with hcg are prescribed for TRT! Enjoy the read.


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    Testosterone and Arimidex

    What if I told you there was a relatively inexpensive pill that any low testosterone man could take that would likely double his bioavailable testosterone and increase his total testosterone by around two thirds? That would get most the attention of most hypogonadal men, of course, and this is why Arimidex (anastrozole) is used widely for just this purpose. One study looked at men over 60 years old found an increase in testosterone of 62% and a decrease in estradiol, the "bad estrogen", of 24% for a net improvement in the testosterone-to-estradiol ratio of 115%. [3] It took their total testosterone levels up from an average of 330 to 535 ng/dl.

    Another study on infertile men with a T/E ratio less than 10 and total testosterone under 200 ng/dl found even more impressive results: total testosterone was increased by an average of 95%. [4] (Another similar drug (Femara or letrozole) produced spectacular results and other studies have shown that Teslac (testolactone) also does very well) [5]

    Now what is curious is that Arimidex (anastazole) actually works by binding to the infamous aromatase enzyme that converts your testosterone into estrogen. Thus it effectively inhibits or blocks this conversion. So one might expect estrdiol (E2) to be affected more propertionately than testosterone, but notice that it was T that was affected more than E in the above study. (For other ways to affect your proportion of T to E, see my Natural Ways to Improve Your Testosterone-to-Estrogen Ratio link.

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    Some of the more forward thinking doctors are now prescribing Arimidex in conjunction with HCG. HCG, of course, stimulates the testes to produce testosterone and is used primarily to avoid testicular shrinkage, but it can also cause estradiol problems downstream. One of the more famous "internet hormone doctors" is Dr. Eugene Shippen and one of our Peak Testosterone posters went to him. Dr. Shippen's overall protocol for this man, whose testosterone was 296 ng/dl, was as follows:

    "He sent back a letter and a prescription for Clomid. (for 7 day stimulation test) My results showed I had Secondary Hypogonadism. My T had risen to 541, My E2=47, and DHEA was below the bottom of normal and D3 was low. On May 30th I went to Pa. to meet with him, he spent over 2 hours going over all my test results and did a physical that included a prostate check. He order[ed] the following meds: HGC, Arimidex, and 25mg DHEA oral supplement. I must have a followup blood test in 3 weeks for T, E2, and DHEA-S. Then in 6 weeks a full blood workup for Endocrine testing. He wants me to take D3 4000mg daily and drink Pomergranate juice plus Vit. C 1000mg." [1]

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    Of course, in this case Arimidex was used in conjunction with HCG, but it is also often used by itself. Look at what one of the men on the Peak Testosterone Forum experienced:

    "Having said that, Arimidex has done wonders for me in the 2 months i've been taking it, and my E2 was only 48 after a few months on hcg. the doc prescribed me 0.5mg ED, which is higher than what most people I read about on msg boards take. I tried that at first, felt nothing for about 10 days, then all of a sudden I started waking up with the biggest erections I had experienced in many years. and libido came back and now I think about sex all the time. just the hcg alone wasnt doing it for me even though it did raise my T levels. i have now cut back to 0.5mg EOD, which is still higher than most people seem to take, but it seems to be working for me. I read a comment on another more steroid oriented forum where a guy was saying to calibrate the Arimidex dosage based on morning wood, because if it gets too low you wont have it, but if it's just right it will be huge and powerful." [2]

    Arimidex also has a big advantages for younger men wanting to possibly have kids: it does a much job at preserving fertility than traditional testosterone therapy. Classic HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy) will generally significantly decrease fertility, making childbearing difficult to impossible. In fact, the new 6-week testosterone therapy injectable, Nebido, is actually being used as a quasi-contraceptive by some men. And there is considerable research going on to find the best way to use HRT to achive a reliable male contraceptive. One research summary even wrote that "current hormonal combinations completely suppress spermatogenesis without severe side-effects in 80–90% of men, with significant suppression in the remainder of individuals. Recent trials with newer, long-acting forms of testosterone combined with progestogens have yielded promising results and may soon result in the marketing of a safe, reversible and effective hormonal contraceptive for men.." [6]

    The aromatase inhibitors (AI's) completely bypass that concern. (Confirm with your doctor, of course.) In fact, Arimidex will actually improve some fertility parameters. One recent study looked at Arimidex and found that, besides delivering a nice boost in testosterone, FSH was largely unchanged and sperm density was increased by 78%. [4][5] For these reasons, it is very common for fertility doctors to use Arimidex to treat male fertility issues. For example, you might be started on Clomid for a few months and, if your testosterone is too high, Arimidex (anastrozole) may be prescribed in combination. Or some men are started with both immediately and then monitored.

    NOTE: These types of fertility treatments for men are much more common than generally realized: male fertility is probably impacting up to a fourth of all troubled pregnancies. Fertility doctors also tend to be much more cutting edge when it comes to boosting testosterone than many traditional doctors, such as urologists, endocrinologists and primary care physicians. Why? Fertility specialists have been treating men for over a decade with alternative treatments and are interested in preserving libido, which requires good testosterone levels, along with boosting sperm parameters. Thus, they have on average built up a lot more experience than most other specialities.

    Also, Arimidex is often used by steroid users to decrease over-aromatization. Of course, steroid users often drive their testosterone into supraphysiological zones, i.e. way above normal, which in turn leads to elevated estradiol. They aslo use it post-cycle period when they are desperately trying to get their testosterone jumpstarted - sometimes unsucccessfully I might add. As strange and annoying as this is, steroid users and fertility doctors were some of the early pioneers of Armidex usage.

    CAUTIONS: However, Arimidex is not something that should be used unless it is under a doctor's supervision, primarily because estradiol, the E2 estrogen, needs to be monitored. One of the problem's with Arimidex is that one can easily push estrogen levels too low. In the short term this can lead to joint pain. Scientists are not sure why, but, when estrogen gets too low on Armidex, the joints can begin to be very painful.

    Even more dangerous, though, would be long term damage fromm overly low estrogen levels. Low E2 will eventually lead to bone mass loss, i.e. osteopenia and ultimately osteoporosis. See my link on Why Men Need Estrogen for more details.

    Arimidex can also negatively effect libido. The thinking is that if estradiol gets driven too low that sex drive goes with it. Again, estrogen in males has a fairly tight therapeutic range with too much or little decreasing sexual desire. (It can also send libido thorugh the roof!)


    REFERENCES:

    1) http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/in...sg2616#msg2616

    2) http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/in...sg4718#msg4718

    3) Clin Endocrinology, 2009, vol. 70(1)"116-123, "Effects of aromatase inhibition in hypogonadal older men : a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial"

    4) http://hrt-rx.com/2012/06/05/ arimidex-vs-femara-for-increasing-testosterone-in-men-hrt/

    5) Fertility and Sterility, Jul 2012, 98(1):48-51, "Changes in hormonal profile and seminal parameters with use of aromatase inhibitors in management of infertile men with low testosterone to estradiol ratios"

    6) Molecular and Cellular Endocrinology, 16 May 2006, 250(1-2):2-7, "Hormonal approaches to male contraception: Approaching reality"

    7) The Journal of Urology, Feb 2002, 167(1):624-629, "AROMATASE INHIBITORS FOR MALE INFERTILITY"

  • #2
    Very cool, man..
    STAY GOLD

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ADONIS View Post
      Very cool, man..
      Thank you! I think its a very informative article and hoped it would open some eyes to different possibilities for healthy PCT's!
      manonmac1
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      Last edited by manonmac1; 09-13-2013, 03:15 AM.

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      • #4
        Thanks I have been tring to get the anastrozole dose and frequency under control but tend to over and under shoot it.

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        • #5
          What do you think about using aromasin for pct over arimidex

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          • #6
            I don't have any personal experience with it and haven't found any articles like the above to verify its use either. It is however said to be a great test boosting AI. Everything I've read suggested it be ran with nolva during pct. It's also the only AI suggested by some to be ran with nolva. Lero and arimadex (anastrozole) both interfere with nolva. Nolva will reduce the effects of both by about 60%. So its said to be kinda pointless to run them together for pct although they are great AI's while on cycle. There are lots of different opinions out here on the use of all these for pct. It all comes down to what works for each individual. Hcg and anastrozole (arimadex) works great for me and a few others I know but it may not work the same for all. I'm not one that normally suggest for people to try my pct. I actually normally tell people to stick with the nolva/clomid method but I do let people know about the other options out there and I tell them what works for me may work for them. I'll continue to search for info on your question and will link any substantiated claims I find.

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