PCT for first cycle

[Thedub3 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Thedub3]

Hey guys, I am finally running my first cycle and can't wait. I am keeping it very simple...

wk 1-10 Test E 250mg two times per week, Monday/Thursday
wk 1-5 DBOL 30mg/day
wk 12-16 Nolvadex 40/40/40/40

This is a very simple cycle and I have been on other forums where everyone tells me I am good to go and that i don't need adex or HCG, just wanted to get everyones input from here. Should I use something for liver protection while using DBOL? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[timguinness Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close timguinness]

You're not really using d-bol at that high a dose, or for that long, either.....but if your family has a history of liver disease, or you're a drinker, it couldn't hurt to add milk thistle or liv-52 to your regimen just to be sure. Any oral can give some people problems.

You're keeping everything very reasonably dosed, I'm sure you're gonna be fine.
Get blood work after your cycle, and let us know how you did. Later bro!

P.S. If that's you in the avatar photo, you need to tell me what you did to get those impressive traps!

[Thedub3 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Thedub3]

You're not really using d-bol at that high a dose, or for that long, either.....but if your family has a history of liver disease, or you're a drinker, it couldn't hurt to add milk thistle or liv-52 to your regimen just to be sure. Any oral can give some people problems.

You're keeping everything very reasonably dosed, I'm sure you're gonna be fine.
Get blood work after your cycle, and let us know how you did. Later bro!

P.S. If that's you in the avatar photo, you need to tell me what you did to get those impressive traps!

thanks for the info man! Never drink, and no history of liver disease, but I think I will pick up some milk thistle just to play it safe. I will definitely get blood work done and let you guys know how it goes.

Haha, yeah that's me in my avi...I do real heavy deads, and I noticed those seemed to help...Other then that, I do 3-4 sets of shrugs with 55-65lb DB's for 12-15 reps leaning slightly forward with my shoulders pinned back and squeezing at the top so I get a real good contraction. I used to go real heavy with DB and BB shrugs and my traps looked terrible, they seem to respond better to lighter weight with more controlled slow reps.

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yeah.. i just just liv52 2 pills morning 2 at night.. and between 800-1200 mg of milk thistle... i start the regimen 3-4 weeks prior to my first dose of the oral as well

[ODB Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ODB]

Hey guys, I am finally running my first cycle and can't wait. I am keeping it very simple...

wk 1-10 Test E 250mg two times per week, Monday/Thursday
wk 1-5 DBOL 30mg/day
wk 12-16 Nolvadex 40/40/40/40

This is a very simple cycle and I have been on other forums where everyone tells me I am good to go and that i don't need adex or HCG, just wanted to get everyones input from here. Should I use something for liver protection while using DBOL? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Looks great nice solid cycle.
I like HCG thru cycle personally, I feel that I recover very fast this way but u should be fine for your 1st.

2 weeks after PCT get ur blood work done to see if ur Natty is back on.

[yeabuddy Member Find all posts View Profile Close yeabuddy]

liv52 is good while your on the dbol...and I def think you should run an AI throughout your cycle

some say dont until you get signs of gyno, but often its too late and an AI wont do much good then...an AI wont reverse gyno

adex .25 EOD or .5 E3D should be cool...you can also go with asin at 12.5 EOD

[Thedub3 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Thedub3]

thanks for the replies guys, just ordered some liv-52 and milk thistle so i can use it...everyone told me i dont need an AI but now im starting to worry and think i should use one

[yeabuddy Member Find all posts View Profile Close yeabuddy]

check this link out...gives you a good idea why an AI is important. its basically preventative measures...why risk getting gyno in the first place? once you have it, its a lot harder to get rid of than it is to take an AI during your cycle.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...o#.TyhbgoGYJqA

[ds222 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ds222]

actually once you have it only surgery gets rid of it. it just varies to what degree you have it

check this link out...gives you a good idea why an AI is important. its basically preventative measures...why risk getting gyno in the first place? once you have it, its a lot harder to get rid of than it is to take an AI during your cycle.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...o#.TyhbgoGYJqA

[yeabuddy Member Find all posts View Profile Close yeabuddy]

actually once you have it only surgery gets rid of it. it just varies to what degree you have it

I thought letro can reverse the effects to an extent?

[timguinness Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close timguinness]

I thought letro can reverse the effects to an extent?

depends on the individual.....for the majority, however, once you got it, you got it.......unless you cut it out, like ds222 said

[ds222 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ds222]

I thought letro can reverse the effects to an extent?

it can take some of the puffiness and iv heard a little of the soreness, but once you have it, you have it. some people are more prone to it than others. i have my doctor check me every physical

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MUST try and look for symptoms constantly so u can catch it early

[Liquid Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Liquid]

You always want to have your ancillaries on hand at the first signs of side effects.

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You always want to have your ancillaries on hand at the first signs of side effects.

x2 that is a crucial rule that u should get down from the beginning.. also read up on symptoms even sore or hard nipples bud.. I have had sore nipps and it was no fun evenb a t shirt irritated it .. so def get that stuff b4 ur cycle