Hi guys, i ran an 8 wk cycle of prop,150 mg eod, with t-bol @ 60 mg for the first 4 weeks then bumped it up to 80 for the final 2 weeks. Its been 3 weeks since my last prop injection so im about 2 1/2 weeks into my pct. Im doing the 40/40/20/20 nolva and 50,50,25,25 clomid for pct. Anyways my problem is my libido is shot, I don't recall having this problem in my previous cycles. Im gonna have to assume its normal for some people but anyone have any idea how long it will take to come back? Hopefully soon, the lady is getting frustrated lol
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Originally posted by BitsobrawnClomid is a weak drug in males. Clomid targets the hpta, which if you understand pct, is the goal And Nolvadex is an anti-estrogen. Wrong, it is a SERM Its not that great for anabolic steroid induced hypogonadism despite what the bro science says. Nor is it used for that aspect, and funny you mnetion bro science after these comments You need to be on HCG. Not during pct Also get yourself some Cabaser aka cabergoline. Prob wont help with anything considering no 19nor compounds were run It will increase dopamine levels in the brain which will help. Partially correct, it does increase dopamine levels, but i dont see any reason for dopamines to be the problem
bman, have you by any chance had any bloodwork done?Pain is just weakness leaving the body
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Loss of libido is a known side-effect. If not caused by the drug (deca-dick etc) its an unwanted thus side-effect, just like acne - insomnia - lack of appetite all side-effects that can be fought with additional means. In this case I would take tadelafil ar vardenafil. Many guys use it anyway its also nice to use for pumping up. Its also thought Viagra/Cialis/Levitra can aid the delivery of steroids to the muscles and help athletes recover from workouts much faster. If you google on the subject you?ll find out most guys prefer Cialis by a mile. Levitra is even better but much harder to obtain and causes headaches etc in some guys. What works great is buying some API and dissolve that underneath your tongue.
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Nolva has this effect on me. The more I take, the lower my sex drive. I found torem to be better in that aspect. Either way, sex drive is typically low during pct since test is low. If you can't perform, cialis should do the trick. If you just don't feel like sex, its a common side effect of low test and should bounce back when you are more recovered.
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Did you run an AI during cycle or pct? High estro will kill libido in some. Aromisin is a good choice during and in pct. Some guys lose libido during pct mainly because t levels are still low and estro can be high. Hcg can cause a spike in e2. I would guess that you will soon start to feel better as you begin to recover but if you have some aromisin on hand it wouldn't hurt to run 12.5mg a day. Adex is fine also but would need to be tapered off to avoid rebounding estro.
I would get blood work rather then guess and add unnecessary ancillaries. IMO clomid and nolva are a good combo because they work in different ways at the pituitary. Personally I prefer torem.
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I've been reading good things about torem, ill have to look into that for my next cycle. I've been finished with pct for about a week now and I think im pretty much back to normal. Im calling my doc tomorrow to see if I an get some bloodwork done. I ran some research adex during cycle but I question the legitimacy of it. My prior cycle which was about a year ago, I didn't have a problem with my libido post cycle and it was a much longer cycle. Maybe its just me getting older and its harder for my body to recover.
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Yeah when playing with hormones so many things can effect changes from cycle to cycle. You adex may have been weak. Could be a number of factors but the good thing is you are feeling better.
I usually wait two weeks past pct to get blood work so your levels aren't influenced by your serms. If you can, get TT, e2, free/bio avaliable test, lh,fsh,SHBG. Now if this isn't covered by insurance I would just get TT and e2lh,fsh.
You can get it done cheap without a doc using PrivateMD. Just google and use female hormone panel. The results will come back as ranges for males. These are just things I like to see after a cycle and each for specific reasons.
Good luck to you and I'm sure you will feel better by the day.
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