Viagra

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I was wondering if anyone has used Viagra as part of PCT in attempt to speed up the recovery of one's libido? And if so, how did you dose it and for how long? And was it effective?

[iPenetratah Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close iPenetratah]

This is from an article on Cialis increasing test levels, one study showed Viagra did as well, but lower than the Cialis group.

So, do some leg work, and I am sure you figure out a plan.

In a study of 74 patients with erectile dysfunction treated on demand with 50mg of Viagra or 20mg of Cialis for three months, basal levels of total testosterone and free testosterone were at the bottom of the normal range that was reversed after treatment in both groups. Testosterone increase in Viagra-treated cases was significantly lower than in those treated with Cialis, suggested to be due to the higher frequency of full sexual intercourse in the Cialis-treated group.15

Another study reported that the increase in testosterone from taking Cialis is mediated by a reduction in estrogen demonstration that Cialis may have anti-estrogen actions. It was pointed out that the T/estradiol ratio was associated with long-term Cialis treatment. There was no increase in LH levels from Cialis, demonstrating that Cialis did not directly increase testosterone, but indirectly increased testosterone by lowering estrogen.16

One of the primary reasons that many older men have problems ?rising to the occasion? is that they have excess estrogen levels. Furthermore, in men with hypogonadism, a low dose of clomiphene citrate (Clomid) is effective in improving testosterone:estrogen ratio, thus giving more long-term benefit for the management of erectile dysfunction in hypogonadal patients.18 It seems that based on the current study, Cialis has similar actions to Clomid by improving T:E ratio.

15 Carosa E, Martini P, Brandetti F, Di Stasi SM, Lombardo F, Lenzi A, Jannini EA. Type V phosphodiesterases inhibitor treatments for erectile dysfunction increase testosterone levels. Clin Endocrinol, (Oxf) 2004;61:382?6.

16 Greco EA, Pili M, Bruzziches R, Corona G, Spera G, Aversa A. Testosterone: Estradiol ratio changes associated with long-term tadalafil administration: A pilot study. J Sex Med, 2006;3:716?22.

18 Shabsigh A, Kang Y, Shabsigh R, Gonzalez M, Leberson G, Fisch H, Goluboff E. Clomiphene citrate effects on testosterone/estrogen ratio in male hypogonadism. J Sex Med, 2005;2:716?21.

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Appreciate the input Ipenetratah, I understand how the compounds work, I was just inquiring has anyone had any experience with either. I always use clomid as part of my PCT, but I was wondering if Viagra or Cialis could possibly be dosed as clomid in which I usually dose 100/50/50/50 ( of course the dosage would not be as high with Viagra or Cialis) to aid in libido recovery. For sometimes though I can tell that clomid does begin the process in Test recovery, I notice that it may take an additional month or so before my sex drive returns to what it was prior to cycle even with proper PCT and in addition to the clomid I always run a test booster as well as a cortisol suppressor. Just curious if either Viagra or Cialis would be beneficial in speeding up recovery.

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Just about everywhere I have read HCG keeps popping up to do what you are asking. I have never tried it though so take it for what it's worth. Besides a wang pill, along with what Ipenetratah posted, usally acts on ones blood pressure to assist with job so don't be fooled by the boner! I would not put all of you eggs into the test basket on that one.

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So know one has tried Viagra or Cialis in an effort to assist in restoring libido after a cycle?

[little one Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close little one]

Yeah bro I have, and I must say that its good to add in so you have no penis problems, but using hcg does a better job at bringing it back quicker. ED drugs do not bring it back they just keep it working until it is back. At least in my experience. I have found that using hcg during cycle is the best way to get everything working as quickly as possible. I do 300 ius twice a week while on.

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Appreciate the input little, that's what I needed to know.

[jockstudfl10 Banned Find all posts View Profile Close jockstudfl10]

i use viagra all the time i love it. anyone who has ever used it that i know ..never stops...

[Cage fighter Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cage fighter]

Shit makes my head hurt bad

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i use viagra all the time i love it. anyone who has ever used it that i know ..never stops...

How do you dose it jock?

[computerguy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close computerguy]

Yeah,
I remember the first time I tried viagra... my wife figured it out after about an hour... lol.... its great.. but for me, I get RED in the face... and if I go out in the sun... wow... people think I am having a rage.... face gets bright red... but other than that... who cares...

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my friend says he gets headaches on viagra. another says its more intense than cialis. i have used small dosages of cialis 5-10mg and it kicks ass (i dont have ED so idk how much someone with ED would have to take)

I think Cialis is the better one of the two if being used for PCT. i plan on running 5-10mg a day for a few days. it stays in your system longer than viagra as well.

[jroc4475 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jroc4475]

dang this my first time hearing of this but good info guys!

[Braveone Member Find all posts View Profile Close Braveone]

Yea, it can give you bad headaches. I use liquid research cialis. And dose it at about 10mg when I use it. Anymore and my Fuckin head pounds.

[jockstudfl10 Banned Find all posts View Profile Close jockstudfl10]

yup headaches and red flush...but who cares . Advil takes care of the headache redness goes away after a day or so.