Where is failure?

[stallion Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close stallion]

Posing this question to the guys that train to failure. The question of my thread is just that. What do you consider momentary muscular failure to be?

Some exercises are easy to know, most pushing movements, for example, but let's talk about a pulling movement like seated rows.

I consider any rep that I can touch my stomach with the handle a complete rep. When I can no longer touch my torso, I don't stop, I continue to do a few partials, but I don't count them as "completed" reps.

How do the rest of you judge this?

[Scott1979 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Scott1979]

For me i keep dropping the weight until i can basically not do anymore reps...

[ODB Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ODB]

same here stallion - when I can no longer complete a full good rep.
I don't stop, I too do partials, but for me that is failure.

[Time Bandit Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Time Bandit]

Same here. Drop sets till I cant lift or pull any more.

[stallion Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close stallion]

same here stallion - when I can no longer complete a full good rep.
I don't stop, I too do partials, but for me that is failure.

Thanks, this is what I was looking for. Since I've been doing dc training, I'm meticulously documenting my reps so that I can see if I'm making any progress workout to workout.

So I may attempt 19 reps per an exercise, but only 14 of them may be complete reps. The other 5 only travel 3/4 way to 1/2 way. I don't count those.

[man-united Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close man-united]

nice post. For me, when i can no longer maintain the correct form i drop weight by 5lbs-or2.5lbs and keep doing it until i can't do another set anymore.

[Shrek Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Shrek]

It depends, sometimes I just smash those fuckers til the weight won't move anymore, but to train to failure for me is when the form goes bye bye and the cheats, forced or partialls starts