need help for cutting and lean muscle gain

[B23C Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close B23C]

Hello guys,Ive been training for nearly 4 years and 190 cm tall weighing around 92kg bf %15 .My age is 23. After gaining experience about training and nutrition i want to take my body to another level.I'm thinking to run a cycle and my goal is to gain lean muscle as well as losing fat (or something which will help me for it).Oxandrolone seems like a good choice for me now,at least it will put me in a better shape.What would you guys advice me to do?
Thanks for your help.

[hooligan365 Member Find all posts View Profile Close hooligan365]

First, ill be the first to say it. Your too young. But click on the forums tab and start reading. Not trying to be a dik, but that's the responses your going to generate from this thread.

[B23C Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close B23C]

I don't think that im too young for using it.Can anyone advice me oxandrolone cycle?

[hooligan365 Member Find all posts View Profile Close hooligan365]

OK, well your going to do what you want. Thats just my opinion,and im sure a few more on here opinion. Besides your age,there's no mention of test in your cycle.!! You need to do a lot more research before your ready to do anything. Best of luck.

[ALEX.18 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ALEX.18]

I dont think 23 is too young. Yea you prob should wait a few more years but, i cant say anything. I started when i was 22 but i dont regret it. Like hooligan said, people are going to do what they want anyways, you just need to be aware of whats going to come in the future and be willing to accept that. Ive made my choice starting so young and now ill have to live with it but that was my decision

The thing that concerns me is the lack o knowledge. Again, like hooligan said, there is no plan for test in your opening post and there needs to be test as a base with every cycle you ever run. Do some more emeesearch and come back with some good questions and a beginneers cycle and we'll be more than glad to help

[cmode44 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close cmode44]

I'm guessing you want to run orals only? (seems to be the common thing with younger guys)

[Big L Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Big L]

I think 23 is to young if your not gona run a cycle the RIGHT way
You think your old enough then get some test cypinate fill up a syringe and stick it in your BUTT
MAN UP.

[B23C Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close B23C]

thanks for now,i did researches but i got confused everytime..anyway i will do a good research and ask your opinions later guys regards

[stringer4545 Member Find all posts View Profile Close stringer4545]

bottom line... u asked about var,yes it has the less sides of most all juice but ur not gonna see what u want from just doing that. its more of a icing on the cake to a cycle,i personally dont like any orals,considering my drug past ive prolly done enough damage to my liver,like another guy said on here, man up stick urself in the ass with some test like i did 11 yrs ago.trials and tribulations..

[ODB Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ODB]

B23C -good choice do more research, also get a blood test or a saliva test of your testosterone levels (free Test).
what u need research is not only AAS knowledge but also about ur body.

@ ur age ur natural Test levels may be very high, why shut that down with a weak AAS? essentially lowering ur test + sabotaging yourself.

normal (low) ranges of TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) r in the 200-300mg of Testosterone Cypionate - just to reach low normal range.
U wish to juice to get to a high Test level, which would = a higher dose.
so most of us suggest starting with 400-500mg of Test per wk as a base to any cycle just to replace + add to ur natural test levels.
U can then choose to add Var or Dbol or Abombs, etc from their but to take the amount of Var (oxandrolone) that u would need to replace ur natural test levels and surpass that would be alot.
Not to mention that their is alot more medical testing + info on Test now that it is being prescribed more.

My advice while ur researching more get that BF% down to 10% + u will look 10-20lb bigger.

[mortirius123 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mortirius123]

If it's your first I suggest you use sust, test prop. or test cyp. the latter are similar compounds i wouldnt recommend anavar for your first time, its something you could use after the test to help keep what you gain or in conjunction with the test. But since this is your first time I would steer clear from stacking two compounds. Test is the fundamental building block of any cycle. You might be able to get androgel or generic if you know someone that can write you the script. otherwise