Looking for opinions for next cycle

[Derek450 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Derek450]

This will be my third cycle and I'm looking for some advice from some more Experienced guys. Iv been studying up on and off for the last few months and this is what I have come up with, but first some stats.

24
5'10
165lbs

1-16
*500 mg week test c,

1-14
*400 mg wk eq

1-4
*50 mg GP Methan

6-14
*tren e 400 mg wk
(or Mast havent desided)
75 mg Ed proviron

3-16
250iu hcg*

Pct 2 weeks after last shot

1-2
*100 mg Ed chlomid, 40 mg Ed nolva*

3-4 50 mg Ed chlomid, 20 mg Ed nova

If there is anything you would add or change I would really appreciate your opinion!

[ds222 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ds222]

seems like an awful lot for your third cycle

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

seems like an awful lot for your third cycle

Yeah I have to agree, if you use that Tren be careful it's Strong shit. Also, take notice of the fucked up dreams your going to have using the Tren, you'll wake up saying what the fuck was that all about. lol Yeah I don't think you need that much to still get some good gains, I would seriously take the Tren out but thats my opinion.

[Derek450 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Derek450]

Do you think it's a lot because of the addition of the Tren or Mast tward the end of the cycle. Or because of the duration?

[Derek450 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Derek450]

Yeah I have to agree, if you use that Tren be careful it's Strong shit. Also, take notice of the fucked up dreams your going to have using the Tren, you'll wake up saying what the fuck was that all about. lol Yeah I don't think you need that much to still get some good gains, I would seriously take the Tren out but thats my opinion.

So do you think the addition of Mast would be the better choice to add ate the end of the cycle or just stick with the Test and EQ?

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

The Mast is for cutting, I really don't think you need eather one. I'd run the the EQ right to week 16 also. I think you'll be very happy with out the two (TREN and Mast). Just make sure your diets right on. IMO

[Derek450 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Derek450]

Yeah I was thinking adding the Tren or Mast at the end of the cycle to try and shed some bf. iv got a little more bf now then I normally do so I'd say I'm around 12% but I think I'll go with your opinion since I have plans to do 8 weeks of test prop / Tren A / Mast a few months after this run. Also I was back and forth on which AI i sould use eather Arimidex at .5 mg eod Or using the Proviron. By what I read on naps the Proviron sounds like good stuff but I havent been able to find many opinions on it, or much of a dosing schedule?

[sixteentons Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sixteentons]

I would personally bump the EQ up to 600mg. And I agree with running that the whole time and dropping the tren or mast.
The EQ will give you lean gains but the dbol is gonna make you a little puffy. You might wanna drop that as well.

[Derek450 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Derek450]

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Wk 1-4
GP Methan- 50mg

Wk 1-12
GP Test Cyp- 1ml twice a week- 500mg
GP EQ- 1ml twice a week- 400mg

Wk 1-12
Arimidex .5mg eod-e3d

Wk 3-12
Hcg 200iu twice a week (never used hcg b4 advice would be appreciated)

PCT 14 days after last shot

Wk 1-2
chlomid 100mg Ed, Nova 40mg Ed

Wk 3-4
chlomid 50mg Ed, Nova 20mg Ed

[Derek450 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Derek450]

I would personally bump the EQ up to 600mg. And I agree with running that the whole time and dropping the tren or mast.
The EQ will give you lean gains but the dbol is gonna make you a little puffy. You might wanna drop that as well.

The only problem is I like to keep my Test levels higher then any other compound I'm using. I don't think I want to jump up to 750mg of Test just yet, this only being my third cycle. And yes the Dbol will make me a little puffy but I will still have another 7 wks to go on the cycle once I have dropped it. Most of the water retention from the Dbol should be gone by the end of the cycle.

[Liquid Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Liquid]

I would not add the Tren and Mast in towards the end like that. I would use them both in a completely different cycle. You do not need to go to 750mgs of Test just to run 600mgs of EQ.

I would go with:

1-16 Test C - 500mgs a week
1-16 EQ - 600mgs a week
1-4 DBol - 50mgs a day

Possibly add in Mast towards the end of the cycle for 4-5 weeks at 50-100mgs EOD - But I do think you will be very happy with the results without it.


That will give you some nice lean gains - Keep your training and diet on point and you will be good. No need to go overboard with Tren and Mast. Hit me up if you have any questions. Also, please use the link in my signature before you order!

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