Low Energy with Tren

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I have taken tren A before.

10 week

test cyp 750 week
tren E 600 week
clomid eod 25 mg
Anz .5 ed

last 8 weeks adding winny 50 mg ed

This is my 3 week. libdio so so, have pct read when done

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Trenbolone is a PgR ligand with mixed agonist/antagonist activity. Perhaps more importantly it also highly suppresses natural progesterone as well as alters its metabolism. Antagonist action at the PgR can be just as much an issue as agonist action. And of course agonist action does not mean that it has the same modulatory effects on ER as progesterone. Nor does it mean that it has the same transcriptional effects as progesterone.

Its not entirely clear whether trenbolone always raises prolactin, in some cases it certainly appears to. It's more consistent effects may be as an allosteric modulator of PRL-R activation and/or expression. However, what can be said with certainty is that prolactin suppression is effective in the treatment of issues that stem from trenbolone, including both libido and gynecomastia."

"Basically just because something is a PgR agonist or a PgR antagonist does not mean that its activity will be the same or opposite of progesterone. Also because these compounds are a bit "slutty", you can be sure that they will be binding to other sites, especially when other hormones are suppressed or when ratios are different. Progesterone is actually a very widely acting hormone and it has numerous active neurosteroid metabolites. Trenbolone metabolites likely have some similar actions (or at least metabolic pathways)

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OK for dumbies. That was a litttle deep for me.
Thanks

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I unnderstand what you were saying now. What would you adjust.

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

One thing to remember is Tren is 5 times stronger than Test and as a rule the ratio is 5:1. In other words if you are doing 100mg of Tren then you should be doing 500mg of Test. My guess is the low energy is from to much Tren. I was the same way when I try to do 600mg of Tren E, I could fall a sleep anywhere.

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Ok so lower the tren, how long it take to taper down. Like I pinned today when do i need to wait to pin again. I am at 600 so if I want to drop to 200. how would ya do so.

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I would drop it on your next scheduled pin, it toke me 2 weeks before the sides stopped.

[Joelieo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Joelieo]

I'm runnin 400 weekly of tren an 400 of test prop a week an 400 of the deca. Been doing that for a while now. No side effects. Good lean gains.