going to start my cycle soon read an tell me if this is a good starter

[lean_Jay Member Find all posts View Profile Close lean_Jay]

1st week 500iu HCG startin this to be safe so my nuts dont go bye bye

2nd week 2ml = 500mg Test Enanthate/500iu HCG / 20mg of DIANABOL per-day

3rd week 2ml /500iu HCG / 20mg of DIANABOL per-day

4th week 2ml /500iu HCG / 20mg of DIANABOL per-day

5th week 2ml /500iu HCG / 20mg of DIANABOL per-day

6th week 3ml =750mg /500iu HCG

7th week 3ml/500iu HCG

8th week 2ml/500iu HCG

9th week 2ml/500iu HCG

10TH week 2ml/500iu HCG

11th week nothing

12th week day 1- Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 40mg a jump start to get my natural Testosterone running again
Following 26 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg

[CFINCH007 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close CFINCH007]

Very confused, how long are you running Test for???

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

Yeah, somethings not right it looks like your missing the Test Enanthate in some of the weeks, plus I would up the D-Bol to 30mg ED

[CFINCH007 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close CFINCH007]

i couldn't agree more, I dont mean to sound like a dick but maybe you might want to do some more reading first....just my 2 cents

[Sroly Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Sroly]

I think he's referring to the test with the 2 and 3 ml in his his post. I don't know how worth it would be to bump the test to 750mg for weeks 6 and 7 and then go back down to 500, but then again I could be wrong. Although from my understanding you'd be better off just keeping it at 500 for your first cycle. and like MrBig said, definitely up the D-Bol dosage to 30-40mg. And like CFINCH said, you might want to do a bit more research before you order and start up your cycle.

[mbig245 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mbig245]

1st week 500iu HCG startin this to be safe so my nuts dont go bye bye

2nd week 2ml = 500mg Test Enanthate/500iu HCG / 20mg of DIANABOL per-day

3rd week 2ml /500iu HCG / 20mg of DIANABOL per-day

4th week 2ml /500iu HCG / 20mg of DIANABOL per-day

5th week 2ml /500iu HCG / 20mg of DIANABOL per-day

6th week 3ml =750mg /500iu HCG

7th week 3ml/500iu HCG

8th week 2ml/500iu HCG

9th week 2ml/500iu HCG

10TH week 2ml/500iu HCG

11th week nothing

12th week day 1- Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 40mg a jump start to get my natural Testosterone running again
Following 26 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg

Stick with 500 mgs. a week for your whole cycle since its your first time. (correct)? Also, I would wait a couple of weeks in to start the hcg. Wait till the test gets in your system.

This would be they way I run your cycle.
WEEKS 1-12 (Test e.) 500mgs. a week
D-bol wks.1-4 (30mgs. a day)
Start hcg your second week on.
Then after your cycle ends go into pct. You should get away with just Nolva considering it's a basic run. (40mgs for 2wks. then go to 20mgs. for another week or 2)

[hackleech Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close hackleech]

dont mess with the test just run the 12 weeks at 1 ml twice a week so 500mg a week dbol 4 weeks 30 mg i suppose if u really wanted to u could do 6 weeks of the dbol tho hcg i dont think it will make a difference if u start it week 1 or week 3 so i'd just start it week 3 or even 4 i think it takes test e atleast 3 weeks to start effecting ur ball size i dont remember tho

[hackleech Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close hackleech]

also dont forget the damn diet! figure out what ur goals are for this 12 week cycle and have one of the smarter guys on here help u with what u should be eating being ur first cycle i would assume u simply want to add alot of lean mass so u should already know how much calories/macros u need to do that sense u will be on cycle u can up them a bit and make sure u count them everyday so ur not eating 2.5k one day and 4.5k another day lol

[F.I.S.T. Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close F.I.S.T.]

IMHO,being this is your 1st cycle and its a basic one of test and dbol,there should be no need for hcg.I really only believe in taking hcg with very long or heavy dosed cycles.With a proper pct,you should recover fine.Also,hcg does have a risk of neg sides as well so why take it if you don't need it? I know that everyone now talks about adding hcg to EVERY cycle too make pct easier but it's just not necessary IMO.

As you get older and your natty hormone production is declining then adding hcg to cycles is more important but early in the game when your own production is high,there's no need.

I would add in adex @ 5mg ed throughout the cycle to help keep water retention in check though and make sure you have Nolva on hand in case you are prone to gyno but only add the Nolva if this appears since Nolva blocks IGF-1 production.Other than that,you're gtg with the test/dbol and a normal pct of Nolva/Clomid.

[lean_Jay Member Find all posts View Profile Close lean_Jay]

IMHO,being this is your 1st cycle and its a basic one of test and dbol,there should be no need for hcg.I really only believe in taking hcg with very long or heavy dosed cycles.With a proper pct,you should recover fine.Also,hcg does have a risk of neg sides as well so why take it if you don't need it? I know that everyone now talks about adding hcg to EVERY cycle too make pct easier but it's just not necessary IMO.

As you get older and your natty hormone production is declining then adding hcg to cycles is more important but early in the game when your own production is high,there's no need.

I would add in adex @ 5mg ed throughout the cycle to help keep water retention in check though and make sure you have Nolva on hand in case you are prone to gyno but only add the Nolva if this appears since Nolva blocks IGF-1 production.Other than that,you're gtg with the test/dbol and a normal pct of Nolva/Clomid.

THANK YOU FIST AND EVERYONE HERE ...so then ill get rid of hcg an put adex then and and gyno i dont think i am but ill make sure with my doctor before i start it im goin to start it on new year day jan 2 so ill keep you guys posted on how it turns out hope i get a bit bigger without the water retention put on at least real 20 to 30 lbs of muscle ill be happy and just work on getting it ripped while im off it

[xamo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xamo]

I'm gonna be a dick but WTF are you doing a cycle for? If I recall right you're like a month away or something to joining a Police Academy? Either you're a real moron and want to do it the easy way risking to be tested positive and go to jail / as well as be banned frm working with any law agencies for a lifetime... or you're just dumb... do it once you're done with your training but not when you're about to join that is just ... I mean it's like jumping on a live grenade..

[lean_Jay Member Find all posts View Profile Close lean_Jay]

no ur not a dick i change my entrance exam for another 6 months so when i start in January my cycle it ends before i even go in its a 8 week cycle then wait 2 weeks before goin into my pct and thts for one month in total thts 3 months and ill have 3 months off the juice ill be ok kinda lol but i thank u for worrying about me ur a online step-dad to me and this helps me cuz i do not want to do training in the winter time hell no only wearing one pear of sweat pants an a sweater ill freeze my nuts off go during the summer an fall training its a 6 month training cuz i have a BA no 9 months for me ^_^

[xamo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xamo]

Okay then. I still think though that you should try to make it in by yourself without any kinda help... it's not the same but personally i know some people who went to become Marines with that kinda help and I do not consider them Marines. IMO they're not worthy of the title. Plus it feels so much better to know that you fought to earn it. I'm sure it's the same in the Law Enforcement... but then if you don't care about that then go for it.

[lean_Jay Member Find all posts View Profile Close lean_Jay]

its not i dont care its not like im goin to make perfect score on the field an plus im not good with guns i might fail in tht area lol and also adding weight wont help to so i might have a higher time keep but i know what u mean who knows i might end up with a desk job in the holding cell or something

[lean_Jay Member Find all posts View Profile Close lean_Jay]

or WORSE be a parking meter-maid lol giving tickets