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Gonna take tren e, so should I use test c or e? Don't want my body to have some crazy reaction to too much e. Might be a silly question, just trying to cover all my bases.
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Before answering the question I have to ask your history with AAS...is this your first cycle? is this your first cycle with Tren?? Tren E is a tough drug to use if your have never used it before and the sides can be pretty nasty for some people...night sweats, insomnia and vivid nightmares to name a few......if you have never used Tren before and you have some history with Test why not just stay with a decent Test cycle like 500mg a week of either Test E or Test C (they are almost interchangeable it's really a personal choice when choosing between the two) and stack that with some Dbol- 20mg to 40mg a day...run the Test for 8 to 12 weeks and the Dbol for 6 to 8 weeks..the gains you make from a simple but effective cycle like that coupled with proper diet will surprise you...there's no need to venture into Tren unless you have used it before and know how you react to it...just trying to save you from an unpleasant cycle bro I know some guys that have used tren and been unhappy with the sides....Last edited by run4it; 10-20-2011, 04:05 AM. -
Will be my 6th. Doing the same cycle as my last, except tren instead of winstrol. Drol, test, eq, tren. As ready as I'll ever be. Soooo, I guess it doesn't matter about too much enanthate?Comment
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What are esters?....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ester
Esters are derived from carboxylic acids. A carboxylic acid contains the -COOH group, and in an ester the hydrogen in this group is replaced by a hydrocarbon group of some kind. We shall just be looking at cases where it is replaced by an alkyl group, but it could equally well be an aryl group (one based on a benzene ring).
A common ester - ethyl ethanoate
The most commonly discussed ester is ethyl ethanoate. In this case, the hydrogen in the -COOH group has been replaced by an ethyl group. The formula for ethyl ethanoate is:
Notice that the ester is named the opposite way around from the way the formula is written. The "ethanoate" bit comes from ethanoic acid. The "ethyl" bit comes from the ethyl group on the end."GYM + JUICE"Comment
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No it won't matter but I would switch the Tren E with Tren A...that way if your having to many sides with it you can stop and the sides will subside faster than if you were using the longer ester...Tren E will start to kick in somewhere between 2 and 3 weeks as apposed to Tren A which is a couple of days (these are only estimated time tables everyone reacts differently on any compound so you might find it takes longer or shorter).....look for the common sides to tell you that you have the real deal witht he Tren....night sweats like you've never had before and the good ol Tren cough some people get....if you start having night sweats (you wake up and your pillow is soaked) then you know your on Tren..LOL......you didn't ask for anyone to comment on your choice of compounds so I won't give you my opinion on your stack but be mindful of your liver enzymes while running a cycle that includes Anadrol and Tren...you are really using 2 of the more toxic compounds out there bro...be sure to post up some updates as you go...I am curious as to what kind of gains you are going to make with this stackOriginally posted by Bordy View PostComment
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Thanks for the input. Drol gives me sweats pretty bad, too. Not looking forward to the sides, but from what I understand, the results from tren are off the charts. Will definitely keep you posted. Not starting until mid February, just getting my ducks in a row right now.Comment
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I'm glad to see your "planning" your next attack and not just ordering a couple of whatever the flavor of the day is and firing away...keep a log when you start so everyone can watch your progressComment
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If you have not used tren before I would not go with the tren-e first go around.Comment
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I went with tren e 200 my first cycle along with supertest 450 a Week for 12 weeks...no bad sides except acne and night sweats...had pretty cool dreams honestly...jump started it with dbol for four weeks at 25mg a day...put on 15lbs of lean muscle and lost body fat while leaned out nicely...bro as long as you don't nodular cystic acne on cycles the other sides ain't shit man...I know its different for everyone bro but in my opinion stay away from the anadrol and jump start the cycle with dbol insteadComment
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Unless you have an allergy the enanthate ester( a small % of ppl do) then it doesn't really matter whether you run test cyp or test enth with your tren enth. You'll get a few more mg of test from enth rather than cyp. Only about 4 or 5mg per 100mg, but why not get the best bang for your buck.Comment
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Go with Tren Ace with Test Prop maybe add in Mast plus a Dbol or Anadrol.Comment
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Be careful my first test/tren cycle was a double edged sword. awesome gains very lean dry look. on the other hand i had major trouble with cardio, night sweats , could not sleep for more than 4 hrs, and temper issues. it was def and experience so get rdy. i ran and ethanate with tren ace.. One time i was in the gym for almost 4hrs and didnt even realize it..thought it was more like 2..gud luckComment
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