Can Ronny or someone knowledgeable give their advice on esters please?

[allergate Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close allergate]

Hi Guys

Just picked up a vial of Max Test 400 from a local source, it contains the following esters of testosterone and individual amount of hormone per ester:

Enanthate 150mg
Decanoate 100mg
Cypionate 50mg
Phenylpropionate 100mg

These are all testosterones. It is by a lab called Pulau Pharma if anyone is interested.

Heard this is a very strong mix and it has 0.1% benzyl alcohol and cotton seed oil to 1ml the box says.

Could anyone give me a decent guide as to time to onset of action and time to wait to start pct after last injection please?

I only ask as Ronny T mentioned in a previous post that half lives etc vary greatly depending upon the carrier oil used.

Many thanks guys

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welll since the decanoate ester is in there.. u might have to wait longer than 3 weeks for pct vrs the typical cyp and e.. .. but further comments will narrow that down for u...
interesting blend, like a hybrid sust.. you ddint ask but becuz of the prop in it u would wana do injects (atleast) twice awk.
Onset will be quick becuz of the prop.. then 3-4 weeks in cyp and e kickin and not sure about decanoate maybe 6-7.. so bam bam bam! enjoy.. any idea what dose ur running

[Jelly bean Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jelly bean]

At least twice a week. I am currently on test 400 (200 cypt 200 enanth) and I hit .75ml twice a week. I did notice that there are faster acting esters in there though so if you cloud plan it out on a calender instead of set days I think every three days would be choice, any feed back on my suggestion out there?

[iamready Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close iamready]

I am planning on running e3d on some sust 350 and starting pct 3 weeks after last pin due to the long ester involved. I would suggest the same to you.

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

long estrifications

Bro,

Cottonseedoil is a thin oil, this looks like the many SuperTest sold in Europe. Because its from a UG you can only guess if what it should contain (as claimed on the label) is also in there. You could mix it with low dosed HG testosterone prop like virormone or testovis if you want to inject biweekly. Otherwise once a week is enough.

http://juicedmuscle.com/showthread.p...fe-of-Steroids

maybe you'll enjoy this tool http://www.roidcalc.com/

I'll write an article on the blog..

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What about his pct Ron should it be 3 weeks after last pop for linger cuz of the one ester.. I had a similar situation with one of my what mixes so discontinued earlier and just went to prop for four or five weeks then pct to be safe.. So I am interested to hear what u have to say

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

The effect slowly disappears, you could try to calculate when it would go beneath natural level, but I normally start earlier, taking Clomid at 50 mg/day and let it build up slowly to the 300 mg/day. That together with Nolvadex at 20 mg/day for health. I know many use bromocriptine etc etc. For me and ny buddies the oldfashioned Nolve/Clomid was enough. I always prefered Testosterone decanoate just like nandrolone decanoate (the combination is known as AndroBolic) if you want more appetite you can use TestDeca with BoldenoneUnde. New is the TestUnde (nebido). This provides a long ester that also slowly fades.

A mail from a friend about his PCT (I'm totally against using HCG at PCT, but everyone has his own..)

Btw ask SJ he tried this & told me he wont do anything else for PCT & its really a great sex drive booster.

Here is how the doc told me it work Bromo lower prolactin levels & when the happenes it the testosterone levels rises normally + HCG you know it increase the LH levels so with both combos you will experince great PCT & improved sex drive instead of Nolva that cause estrogen to flow in your body & causes later gyno or clomid that causes depression & nightmares PLUS if you use more than 1 progesting compounds in the same cycle like deca/tren/winny then this will help ALOT reducing the elevated prolactin levels after you stopped the treatment.So far for me personally this is the best PCT combo i have ever used.

Here is how my doc told me to do this combo its for total 4wks only :

Note : you start both compounds together, start the bromo at the same day you shoot HCG & continue your bromo everyday for 14 days along with HCG shot every week.

HCG for 4 weeks :

5000 I.U every week

Bromo for 14 days :

first 2 days half tab twice a day

second 2 days half tab three times a day

then 10 days 1 tab twice a day

After you finish the treatment dont go & do blood test right away you should wait for a month like my doc said because if you tested right away you will see the levels naturally elevated because of the treatment but what we want is to see the real levels after it get settel down & the compounds leave the body then we can tell if there is an improvment ot not.

From now on i wont do anything regarding AAS without consulting with my doctor, now i been off AAS for 8 months since last july & thinking of winny cycle only so i'll see what my doc thinks of this soon.Doctors are GREAT if they are open minded

interesting article http://juicedmuscle.com/showthread.php?264-Pct

[allergate Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close allergate]

Hi Guys

Big thanks for the advice and comments Was planning on running this at 1ml (400mg) monday and thursdays for 5 weeks. Then 4 weeks of Test prop at 400mg a week, then a week off then pct. Using this on a cut as recommended on an article I read and printed out. Cant remember where its from now lol. The diet goes from medium carbs to removing virtually all carbs 2 weeks out from the end using dextrose to spike insulin before workouts throughout the diet and training regimen. It was labelled as a contest ready diet. Hoping it will give me a good look for my holiday in December

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no no.. You would have to run that mix for atleast 10 weeks; the test e and cyp and decanoate will have just kicked in around that time... You dont want to discontinue use right when the stuff starts working you know it would be a waste.

What exactly do you have? from your last post it looks like:

1 10ml bottle test mix
1600mg test prop

[allergate Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close allergate]

no no.. You would have to run that mix for atleast 10 weeks; the test e and cyp and decanoate will have just kicked in around that time... You dont want to discontinue use right when the stuff starts working you know it would be a waste.

What exactly do you have? from your last post it looks like:

1 10ml bottle test mix
1600mg test prop

Ive been on a while now fella, however I guess extending by an extra 3 or 4 weeks in the grand scheme of things wouldn't make a huge difference, Ill just have to hit PCT hard them have a long long time off, I must have time off soon or I think im really going to struggle to recover. I can easily pick up another vial of the test mix 400 though.

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o u didnt say anything about being on for a while b4. nvm then

[Jelly bean Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jelly bean]

(Ronny or anyone who has some feed back) I have heard of people breaking up their HCG into 3 doses per week are you saying that you do 5000 iu's at the start of the week all together?

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

Bro,

no I agree with that , every third day DURING CYCLE (NOT afterwards in PCT) 500 iu to prevent your balls to shrink, but latest research showed new insight. HCG only partly prevents your balls/spermcount. More important is HMG.