First Cycle question

[pump22 Member Find all posts View Profile Close pump22]

I was thinking of purchasing the Beginners Bulk cycle. I'm 6'2 220lbs and want to gain some strength and size so I think this is perfect for my first cycle.

agree? If not what do you recommend

also, I see the Items included: 2 x GP Test Cyp 250, 2 x GP Methan10, 2 x GP Anastrozole

it says run 500mg of test per week but does that mean I need to purchase more test than is included? if Only 2 vials are included so it would only last 2 weeks.

just trying to get some knowledge here.

[JayDiesel Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JayDiesel]

No, Im assuming these bottles are 10ml each and 250mg/ml. But as your first cycle my opinion is to hold off on the D-Bol. If youre running 2 things at once you wont be able to tell which one is giving any bad side effects. The package is a good deal and you can buy it just maybe hold the D-Bol till your next cycle. Unless you dont care and are brave enough to rush in head on to dbol. Pick up some Tamoxifen (Nolva) for PCT and run Adex (anastroszole) .25mg eod. It is a great stack tho but you need to know how your body responds to test alone before adding other compounds.

[Nephilim Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nephilim]

I agree with Jay..dbol didn't treat me very well and had I started out running multiple compounds at once, I would have never known it was the dbol. I think the pct needs to be thought out more. 10 weeks of 500 mg test is gonna shut you down. IMO u need more than adex to get shit going again. Proviron, HCG, vitamin c.

[JayDiesel Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JayDiesel]

Yeah my Adex opinion was for on cycle too. Then Nolva for PCT and the HCG would def. be a good addition! Vitamin C has always been a part of my daily supps! Proviron is always good too. But if anything Adex on cycle and Nolva PCT would be the money saving way.

[pump22 Member Find all posts View Profile Close pump22]

No, Im assuming these bottles are 10ml each and 250mg/ml. But as your first cycle my opinion is to hold off on the D-Bol. If youre running 2 things at once you wont be able to tell which one is giving any bad side effects. The package is a good deal and you can buy it just maybe hold the D-Bol till your next cycle. Unless you dont care and are brave enough to rush in head on to dbol. Pick up some Tamoxifen (Nolva) for PCT and run Adex (anastroszole) .25mg eod. It is a great stack tho but you need to know how your body responds to test alone before adding other compounds.

ya, after reading today i figure it's a good idea to run test alone for my first cycle. just don't understand the difference in the different types. hoping to get the cycle started around october or november

[Pauliuch Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pauliuch]

Hey
Just finished 6th week of that same cycle. I did do the DBol. After a few weeks I started getting back pumps in the lower back. When you work out your muscles feel really blown up. Personally it was a nice kick start for me. I have been off the DBol for two weeks and my strength is still up. I don't think I would have gotten as much gains without the DBol at this point. Then again you will probably get great results without it too, just have to wait longer to see it. This stuff is no magical potion, you will not turn into Mr. Olympia overnight. However if done wisely you will for sure see nice gains.
I take the Arimidex half a pill (.5) every other day although Naps says to take it everyday. Also after two weeks I started HCG twice a week. Definately go through all these threads it's where I got almost all my information.
Best advice from my first experience is to do your best to keep your diet clean, eat plenty of good stuff.

[JayDiesel Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JayDiesel]

ya, after reading today i figure it's a good idea to run test alone for my first cycle. just don't understand the difference in the different types. hoping to get the cycle started around october or november

Basically the difference is in the esters. Prop is a short fast acting ester and needs to be pinnned daily or eod and Enanthate and Cypionate are long esters and can be pinned twice a week to be optimal and take longer to kick in

[Optimal Cruz Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Optimal Cruz]

Hi mate

Go for a standard 12 week test only cycle - 500mg a week 2 pins split over Monday and Thursday - If your ordering from our sponsor why dont you get some Pharma grade stuff, Testoviron depot is very good from Schering (Just finished a cycle on it) I only got a tiny bit of acne and that was it, whereas using GP / Lixus brands (Non Pharma) I had ridiculous sides.

Dianabol shouldn't give you too many sides however I would always suggest running one compound as Jay said, Its better to see how your body responds to the compounds.

Cruz

[pump22 Member Find all posts View Profile Close pump22]

Hi mate

Go for a standard 12 week test only cycle - 500mg a week 2 pins split over Monday and Thursday - If your ordering from our sponsor why dont you get some Pharma grade stuff, Testoviron depot is very good from Schering (Just finished a cycle on it) I only got a tiny bit of acne and that was it, whereas using GP / Lixus brands (Non Pharma) I had ridiculous sides.

Dianabol shouldn't give you too many sides however I would always suggest running one compound as Jay said, Its better to see how your body responds to the compounds.

Cruz

yea def. gonna go with a test only cycle for my first. what are most price ranges for a 12 week test cycle and pct? I see there is a 20% off sale right now, seems great. One question I have is I have enough money to get some Clen 20% off right now. even tho I dont plan on using it until a month or 2 after my cycle. When would I be able to start using it and should I purchase it now?

[Optimal Cruz Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Optimal Cruz]

yea def. gonna go with a test only cycle for my first. what are most price ranges for a 12 week test cycle and pct? I see there is a 20% off sale right now, seems great. One question I have is I have enough money to get some Clen 20% off right now. even tho I dont plan on using it until a month or 2 after my cycle. When would I be able to start using it and should I purchase it now?

Yo

Okay your looking at 2 amps per week so 24 x $6 = $144 (12 weeks) - PCT is down to you as there is only one compound I would probably stick with this:

Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 40mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg or Nolvadex 20mg

It can be tweaked however this has worked for me in the pas with test only but everyone is different. PCT should cost you about $40

And NAPS is very well priced in the market,

Cruz

[Nephilim Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nephilim]

Depending on your goals, you could use it as part of your pct. Studies have shown it helps against the catabolic state your body goes into upon coming off aas. If you plan on using for longer than two weeks you are going to need ketofin with it. You might also look into t-3 to take with clen. Thats if u also want to lose fat to.

[PushinWeight Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PushinWeight]

i wouldnt plan on each vial coming out to 10 ml exactly. youre planning will work out better if you plan for each bottle to be more like 8.5-9 ml. with that said, i would go with 3 bottles of test, and if you wanted to you could get 1 prop to finish off with. that would put the cyp or enan at about 9 week, then you could run the prop at 450/wk for 2 weeks. that would put your cycle right around 11 weeks, also with u ending with the prop, you can start your pct sooner after your last pin. and as for the dbol, its a very mild compound so i wouldnt shoot it down. you can run it if youd like but id only recommend like 30 mg a day.

[Optimal Cruz Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Optimal Cruz]

yea def. gonna go with a test only cycle for my first. what are most price ranges for a 12 week test cycle and pct? I see there is a 20% off sale right now, seems great. One question I have is I have enough money to get some Clen 20% off right now. even tho I dont plan on using it until a month or 2 after my cycle. When would I be able to start using it and should I purchase it now?

Yo

Clen - Funny you mentioned that ive just ordered some as well, i owuld use towards the end of your cycle if your cardio has slipped or you have gained a few extra fat pounds, no harm in that.

You cycle it like this:

Week 1-2 40-120mcg (1-3 tablets in the morning to ease off the sides)
Week 3-4 OFF
Week 5-6 40-120mcg

Repeat this for about 8 weeks or less.

Cruz

[PushinWeight Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PushinWeight]

most people ive talked to like the eca stack better than clen. ive never tried either, but ive been debating on trying the eca