missing knowledge on counterfeited HG gear

[Derek Wilson]

Yes, trust is a question now?

[Derek Wilson]

Superb knowledge of counterfeited HG gear!

[Loudlibido]

what about Napsgear? they have been legit for me so far

[littleswole]

after reading this thread i feel the need to stop my testoviron depot's asap - and switch to my ugl - wtf. nice post .

[Drew1975]

thx Ronny interesting...

im just trying out a well known UGL for the first time as i always used HG me in the past ....i just carnt trust HG gear anymore and the guys selling it ots so not good...

anyways im 5 weeks in and the UGL stuff is working a ok.

[damage]

seems like the way to go is to find a good UGL you trust and stick with it..........It is not absolute drug grade but at least you know what you are getting most of the time.

[goanywhere]

Once again - and fantastic and very helpful and informative post Ronny.......

[RonnyT]

not only roids

They sent some good samples and when you order big they sent s***

See these perfect made Kamagra's the only thing the counterfeits miss is the active ingredient.
These erctiles are even more counterfeited then AAS

[niko]

this sucks real bad. who to trust now a days? friggin crap shoot!

[RonnyT]

silkscreen and labeled

Its possible to buy in China - India - Pakistan etc blank amps. I allready mentioned that fact. Some companies buy them (insert).

An other silkscreen printed counterfeited NILE Sustanon, not only falsely filled with different compounds but also contaminated with other pharmaceutical active ingredients you would not want to inject into your body..also sold by IP China.

[RonnyT]

I know about the guns, I love them, I had a homesearch a few times thus I stopped.

Been a lot to Turkey on hollidays and they sell all kind of counterfeits too, smoking saw dust..love it.
Big Italian involvement (camorra) in the world wide traffiking of anabolic steroids familiar with the Alessandro Donati report?

[dino]

Ronny i need a car drive license, Police bring mine...can you help me? LOL
A friend of mine did an holiday in Bulgaria, he carried a Panerai watch, real but in Bulgaria he found a perfect copy of that watch and a lot of other brands, not the easy spot fake you find in every italian city. He's a watches collector so he's an expert about this subject but he told me that if he put the two Panerai watches in a box he was not able to see which one was the original one...perfect copy
Would you like to get a perfect hand made copy of every gun? Go to Pakistan and you will get what you need!
And we must remember the "real copy" of something: if you would to make a gift to your girlfriend, a Bottega Veneta 1500euro handbag for example, you can go in Vicenza, where is located the production and if you are enough lucky you can find a chinese shop where you can buy it for 50-100euro and it's not a copy it's a real one: the production is realized in a little chinese leather firm ( italian production yes... )and the workers do a pair hours of extra job to make some bhandbags for them...
But the best fakes was the "saw dust one" that some years ago you could find in Naple and a lot of south italy' places... 10pcs cartoon cigarettes perferctly made with saw dust in them(there was the cellophane too...) or some car radio/hi-fi stereo with saw dust or brick inside....
But anti-cancer med fakes...you need not a bullet, you need a pair of hours of torture.

[RonnyT]

counterfeits

They have many ways to transport around the globe. More about that, later in this thread.

They have enough resources, and they do not only copy AAS but also money bills and coins, drivers-licences, credit cards, expensive jewellery ? purses ? cloth anti-cancer meds, you just name it.
A very amusing example:

A 22-year old Bulgarian student part of international crime gang, dealing with produce of counterfeit driving licenses, passports and Euro banknotes for more than 25 countries was arrested in Bulgaria. A 22-year old Bulgarian student "issued" a fake credit card on the name of Bill Gates , Interior Chief Secretary, General-lieutenant Boyko Borisov announced.

The student was a part of international crime gang, dealing with produce of counterfeit driving licenses, passports and Euro banknotes spread in more than 25 countries. Bulgaria's police nabbed the man referred to as Alexey K. who produced fake credit cards used for bank drainage.

The student played a key role in the ring. He frequently traveled to Macedonia, Ukraine, USA and Canada. The Bulgarian was arrested at a time when he was preparing fake ID cards. He worked in cooperation with accomplices from the US, Canada, the Netherlands, Macedonia and many other countries.

The operation had been prepared for a year and a half. It began simultaneously in all the countries and so far over 30 people have been arrested.

And he guys, that connection in the Netherlands that?s not me..

[RonnyT]

analysis

We sent in a sample for analysis and it turned out it was dosed with the real compound in the right doses. But they lied about the fact that it was a counterfeit from China and it hurt their credibility and they where removed from some boards for lying about it.

It shows you don’t have to buy a silk screen printer etc to sell these counterfeits. A contracter or manufacturer can deliver them on your doorstep. Accurate filled or with cheaper compounds.

[RonnyT]

samples

Once I found the Chinese company that sold the ampoules and also sold counterfeited British Dragon vials. I had to convince him to sent me some samples. First he sent me a few blank ampoules. I could add every silk screen print I desired and the ampoules could be filled with all compounds I desired. IP CZ had some deca?s but that?s an other story.

I made the guys to believe I was a very big supplier and wanted to make sure the printing was of superior quality..and bingo he did sent me some Karchi samples. The deca to be exact.