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  • GP Oral Tren, hindering gains from Sust???

    I have been on GP Sust 270 for about 5 weeks or so, and I have no issues at all with the Sust, I know its the sh!t...however, my concern lies with the GP oral tren. I checked out the ISN on Geneza's site, and it says its g2g, but I used it to kick start my Sust, and saw nothing in the first three weeks I took it. I was taking 2 a day, then upped it to 3 til I got halfway through the pack, and stopped about 3 weeks in (3rd week of Sust). I took off of it for two weeks then started seeing both size, weight and strength gains, as well as an increase in appetite hardcore. While I'm well aware that the Sust takes a few weeks to kick in, I jumped back on the OT 6 days ago. Since then, my appetite has plummeted to what I would eat off cycle, IF that. I am seeing a nice change in the tone of my muscles, and pumps in the gym are nothing short of incredible to me, especially for someone who takes no creatine or PWO. In a nutshell, I'm wondering

    1-Is the OT bunk, or is it supposed to curb an appetite as well? I haven't run the inj. form yet, so I am new to it.

    2-I have seen all the night sweat and insomnia talks about inj. tren, but I don't get anything from the oral. I have seen many posts on various boards stating they do and they don't get those sides, so I'm not sure which way to go on it. Does the OT indeed have these sides, or is that an inj. only occurrence?

    3-I'm not concerned about the numbers on the scale so much as the visual results, so what I have definitely noticed is more definition, where in the past on Sust only cycles I got a ton of bloat. Please note I am not taking arim. or anything to reduce the bloat. Is this what GP Sust is known for, or is the attributable to the OT?

    4-If the OT is cutting into my appetite this much (I have to force myself to eat a full meal at dinner), is it worth it to continue to run the OT, or just dump it off? I have around 2.5 weeks left of it, so losing it now would be well worth getting the full benefit of the Sust being I have about 15 mls left at 3/week.

    5-I am going to get some inj tren for next cycle for sure.

    Any feedback would be excellent...thank you

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    if you read around there are some people including myself who have received bunk GP oral tren. I was using 750mcg AND 30mg superdrol with no results or sides. im guessing the orals that work are the ones that had lab tests done on them. unfortunately the oral tren and superdrol do not
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Scys View Post
      if you read around there are some people including myself who have received bunk GP oral tren. I was using 750mcg AND 30mg superdrol with no results or sides. im guessing the orals that work are the ones that had lab tests done on them. unfortunately the oral tren and superdrol do not
      I was afraid of that, shame too cuz it sounded promising. Did your ISN show up authentic too? I'm going to discontinue using mine so I don't impede my progress. Good thing I have two bottles of epi laying around, Ill use that for the last half of Sust ride. Have you had any issues w their anadrol? I grabbed the advanced bulk cycle but now I am skeptical of the orals...

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      • #4
        I'm no expert on oral tren as I have never taken it however if you are noticing changes in appetite, changes in muscle tone and pumps I think that's a solid indicator its not bunk. If anything maybe underdosed or something but if it was just a placebo it wouldn't be affecting your appetite, muscle tone, or pumps.

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        • #5
          i had some bunk packs of ORAL TREN too mate...no sides no gains nothining with even 6 tabs/day for 5 weeks...it was totaly underdosed etc...
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            Originally posted by awagz View Post
            I was afraid of that, shame too cuz it sounded promising. Did your ISN show up authentic too? I'm going to discontinue using mine so I don't impede my progress. Good thing I have two bottles of epi laying around, Ill use that for the last half of Sust ride. Have you had any issues w their anadrol? I grabbed the advanced bulk cycle but now I am skeptical of the orals...
            ya it showed up as authentic and i havnt used gp anadrol before. ive heard that GP's dbol and anavar were g2g but i havnt tried those either
            Last edited by Scys; 11-04-2013, 06:53 PM.
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            • #7
              i have see great results on 50mg GP dbol on my friend...he got 10kg into 6 week into the summer and strengh was great too!!!also i have personal expirience with GP stan working as it should be its great too...
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              • #8
                Originally posted by orangejuice View Post
                I'm no expert on oral tren as I have never taken it however if you are noticing changes in appetite, changes in muscle tone and pumps I think that's a solid indicator its not bunk. If anything maybe underdosed or something but if it was just a placebo it wouldn't be affecting your appetite, muscle tone, or pumps.
                I am also on 810 mg a week of sust , which is where I believe the pumps and tone are coming from. I have a leaner diet and do a lot of cardio in addiction to doing a fast paced physical job...however, appetite only , not pumps and drive go away when I stopped taking the OT 3 weeks in. I didn't take it today either and I couldn't eat enough all day, so I may have found the problem. This raises another question, should OT KILL your appetite?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tsek0s View Post
                  i had some bunk packs of ORAL TREN too mate...no sides no gains nothining with even 6 tabs/day for 5 weeks...it was totaly underdosed etc...
                  Yea they could just be severly underdosed, I stopped them today, so now ill get some $ up and just go for the tren ace...inj are always better and I have yet to see anything bad about gp's inj tren

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Scys View Post
                    ya it showed up as authentic and i havnt used gp anadrol before. ive heard that GP's dbol and anavar were g2g but i havnt tried those either
                    My wife is about to start the var that I got he so I'll know the answer to that one soon...shitty that the OT is garbage, I shoulda just shot it...live and learn I guess

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                    • #11
                      Weird, because within the last 1 and half I have cycled GP Oral Tren 3 different times. each time I gained roughly 6-10lbs and definitely increased vascularity/definition.

                      Cycle one was 500mcgs a day for 6 weeks

                      Cycle 2 & 3 where dosed at 1000mcgs with awesome results.

                      But I have also had friends run OT with me and not gain nearly anything.. but the OT was from the same order, same GP brand, same Batch/Lot.
                      IMO OT isn't very resistant to the digestive system and acids, and doesn't absorb well for some people (depending on body habitus)

                      Some love OT and for some it just doesn't work quite right, either its something to do with the conversion or poor bioavailability.
                      But for me its amazing and always something I like to have on hand for a quick test prop/OT run.

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                      • #12
                        Some orals will kill peoples appetite. My hunger goes to nothing on dbol. I ran GPs Sdrol recently and it was good stuff. ran 20-30mg ED and my arm vascularity started getting crazy

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                        • #13
                          Did you also lose fat like being on oral tren?

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                          • #14
                            Oral tren did nothing positive for me. Heart rate increase. sweat a little more.
                            No fat loss.

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