Cycle question

[Kawi122 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kawi122]

Hey there bro's.Aim doing 500mg of teet c a week and taking adex eod.Well my joints are a little sore and I been getting the worst cramps ever.Should I switch to adex .25 e3d.Will this he,p me out.

[Krazy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Krazy]

So, you switched from 400-600 mg/ week of endogenous Testosterone, and decided to go with 500 mg/week of synthetic Testosterone. You are wondering if the Adex is drying you out? Possibly, but I would not be as worried about that as I would what I just pointed out...

[Kawi122 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kawi122]

No krazy I started on test cyp from the beginning u must be thinking of someone else lol.I'm just getting cramps like doing the wierdist shit like stretching etc..I'm three weeks into my 10 week cycle so basically just getting it in my system lol.It's in there tho I can tell a huge difference in working out and I'm horny as a goat 24/7,I'm like a squirrel trying to bust a nut lmfao

[xamo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xamo]

Hey bro, on adex .5 EOD my joints were killing me. I honestly never had gyno issues and other sides so I lowered it to .5 EW and it was fine... maybe do the same?

[Kawi122 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kawi122]

Ya I hope I don't get gyno symptoms lol.I think why I was so worried was I still have a tad bt of fat around my nipples that make em seem puffy but not real bad.I'll have that damn fat gone by the time I reach my 6th week.how many cycles u been thru xamo u look ripped if that's u in the pic!

[Krazy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Krazy]

I used Terminology that you do not understand. Your body produces about 400-600 mg of natural testosterone per week. When you start taking AAS you suppress your bodies ability to make that testosterone. So, you have simply replaced your natural levels of testosterone with synthetic test cyp. A normal individual on testosterone replacement therapy would not be given any anti estrogen at all at this dosage...

[xamo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xamo]

That's me, and that was me before I started any cycles, I'm on my third one now. I'm not as ripped as many on here though lol

[Kawi122 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kawi122]

oh ok now i understand krazy lmfao sorry,i didnt even take sec too read ur message i just breezed thru it lol,ya i might just do away with it altogether or do like xamo said .5 ew and see how that goes,when i lift heavy god my joints feel like there gonna break that shit is drying me up so bad.Only thing about taking it eod is it keeps the water off,i dont care if i only gain 10 pds of muscle on this first cycle instead of 30 and it be mostly water u know what im saying,but hell i might have to deal with the water if im gonna hurt like this.Thanks guys

[gambit Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close gambit]

u really dont know about is really going on without bloodwork. i know plenty of people on HRT, some need an AI, some dont.

[bill2011 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bill2011]

you can use Proviron 25mg ED. i using adex an i dont have no problem

[UH2007 Member Find all posts View Profile Close UH2007]

I used Terminology that you do not understand. Your body produces about 400-600 mg of natural testosterone per week. When you start taking AAS you suppress your bodies ability to make that testosterone. So, you have simply replaced your natural levels of testosterone with synthetic test cyp. A normal individual on testosterone replacement therapy would not be given any anti estrogen at all at this dosage...

Krazy, Im with you on this one or at least that is what I have always heard/believed-that you're not really doing anything above what your body is capable of until you hit the 600+ mg/week level hence i never run less than 750 but usually stick around 1000mgs/week Test E year round. BUT i was doing a little exploring on the internet today and found several places where it claimed the healthy adult male produces about 6-10mgs testosterone a day so that would be about 50mgs/week by my math?? Now none of the places I read this I would consider extremely reputable but still it got me wondering have you ever heard anything like that?? As I said I've always been taught along the same lines as what you were saying.

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

Krazy, Im with you on this one or at least that is what I have always heard/believed-that you're not really doing anything above what your body is capable of until you hit the 600+ mg/week level hence i never run less than 750 but usually stick around 1000mgs/week Test E year round. BUT i was doing a little exploring on the internet today and found several places where it claimed the healthy adult male produces about 6-10mgs testosterone a day so that would be about 50mgs/week by my math?? Now none of the places I read this I would consider extremely reputable but still it got me wondering have you ever heard anything like that?? As I said I've always been taught along the same lines as what you were saying.

yea guys, we dont produce 400-600mg EW. its more like 5 to 7mg ED. if you go to a more conservative endo and get scripted hrt, a good majority of people get dosed at about 100mg EW. some more. some less. for a beginner cycle, 350 to 500mg of test is plenty to make you blow up. i hadnt gone over 500mg for my first several cycles. my first cycle was 400mg cyp EW and i put on a tremendous amount of weight

to the OP, yes, it sounds like you're on too much adex. for new guys, i'd rather start out with a little too much vs too little, especially when there is no blood work to back up your dosing decisions. if i recall your first post in this thread, you never said how much you were using to begin with, you just said ED. but yea, if you were using .25mg ED, then dropping it to EOD would be my suggestion

[Liquid Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Liquid]

Wow. Don't we wish it was 400mg-600mg a week. That would be great. As Sam said, it's 5mg to 7mg a day. You probably read something that was showing numbers that high was referring to ng nano grams.

You don't need to start at 750mg-1000mg to see results.

[Krazy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Krazy]

Ive got Nano-grams / decaliter in my head I think..

My anecdotal experience has always been with huge human beings. So, they were always receiving around 400 mg per week.

[Kawi122 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kawi122]

Sam I'm doing .5mg eod I think I'm gonna try e3d or like xamo said .5 ew