order from nap.net ?

[steven Member Find all posts View Profile Close steven]

Been dieting for one and a half years, training for one. Im just maintaining and think its time to try the real deal. Am a bit concerened about the ordering of these substances via the internet "legally speaking" is this considered safe ? hope this question does not violate any of the forum rules.
steven

[iamready Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close iamready]

Depends on where you live and the laws in that area. It is illegal in the USA without a prescription

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

sounds like you've come a long way, dieting for 2 years! i take it your goal has been weight loss? how much have you lost?

also, are you aware that steroids will not help you lose fat?

[steven Member Find all posts View Profile Close steven]

I was a fat 267 one and a half years ago, I am now a lean 210. Diet is clean, not even cheats. 5000 cal. day. 420-500 grams protien, eat every three hours. I am working hard to gain lean muscle but even doing no cardio anymore and eating like this for months it is hard to gain a pound ! I am starting to get a bit frustrated. Tried pros and only gained about net 8 pounds in a month after PCT. Not sure that the pro's aren't harder on the body anyway.
Steven

[iamready Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close iamready]

I started my journey as a weight loss mission about 4 years ago. Good luck

[dino Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dino]

Hi Steven, What's pros or pro's?

[iamready Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close iamready]

I believe he is referring to prohormones. Which in most cases is just code word for oral steroids.

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

it sounds like you have a decent handle on your doet. congrats on the awesome weight loss!

as far as gear to use (as we talked about in PM) i'd just suggest something very simple to start. test cyp or test e, 350-500mg EW for about 10-12 wks. believe me, you'll grow like never before on this simple cycle. you could add in some dbol for the first several wks to kick start the cycle as you wait for the test to start working. something like 25 mg would be fine. have nolvadex on hand in case you have gyno issues. also have your pct ready for the end. the cleaner you eat, the less troublesome water retention will be. you could consider running a low dose of an AI though the cycle to control estrogen. warning though, keep the dose low. too little estrogen in your body will reduce your gains. adex at .5mg EOD or E3D should be enough.

so my suggestion would look something like this...

wk1-6 dbol 25mg every day
wk1-12 test cyp 350-500mg every wk
wk1-12 adex .5mg EOD

i think that the geneza line of products is great and would suit you just fine. the oils are thin and painless. the dbol tabs are super potent.

let me know what you think!

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

I started my journey as a weight loss mission about 4 years ago. Good luck

not to derail steven's thread, but just out of interest, how has your weight loss trek gone? i've had the opposite problem. i was under weight when i started.

[iamready Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close iamready]

not to derail steven's thread, but just out of interest, how has your weight loss trek gone? i've had the opposite problem. i was under weight when i started.

I changed my diet and started lifting weights 6 days per week. Lost 50-60lbs in 6 months. By that time I was addicted to working out, so I kept at it. Now I have put on 30 lbs in the last 3.5 years and stayed at 9% body fat. I am in my first testosterone cycle right now.

[steven Member Find all posts View Profile Close steven]

Sounds good Sam this is what I will go with. As for the Nolvadex, if needed how much and how often? Also what would be a good PCT plan for this particular cycle ? as I want to order all at once. Sure appreiciate your time and advice I know it is solid.

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

I changed my diet and started lifting weights 6 days per week. Lost 50-60lbs in 6 months. By that time I was addicted to working out, so I kept at it. Now I have put on 30 lbs in the last 3.5 years and stayed at 9% body fat. I am in my first testosterone cycle right now.

way to go. thats a lot of fat to drop and a lot of muscle to gain! you must look like a completely different person. keep me posted on the results of your first cycle.

[iamready Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close iamready]

Personally I like 20mg/day for 3 weeks then 10 mg/day for2 weeks. First dose is 2weeks after your last pin.

[sam1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sam1976]

Personally I like 20mg/day for 3 weeks then 10 mg/day for2 weeks. First dose is 2weeks after your last pin.

sounds good to me. a lot of times i think people go overboard with high pct doses. and personally, i'd order an extra pack just to have on hand for safety.

[steven Member Find all posts View Profile Close steven]

As far as PCT for this simple cycle nolvadex is all that is really required ? sounds easy !