Advice needed!! HELP :)

[BlueG Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BlueG]

Hi guys, this is my first ever post so take it easy on me, if i sound like a novice then its because this is actually the first time im gonna be using steroids. I train at least 4 times a week in my local gym and have gained maybe 1 stone in mainly muscle in the past 2 years but have hit the wall and no longer seem to be getting any bigger! Im 5ft 9" in height and weigh about 12 stone but im very lean but want to get bigger for my summer holidays.

I need advice from you guys about what to take, i have a friend who says take D-Bol but should i take D-Bol on its own? or should i take something with it?

[ODB Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ODB]

my best advice is to READ what is already here - Forums Steroid Learning, Anabolic Steroids, Drug profiles and AI's and PCT Do a search for "D-bol" - everything you need or want to know is already up.

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I've searched for the D-Bol thread and it doesn't have much info (only 4 posts) but on steroid description thread it says you should maybe take Nolvadex or something like that on a D-Bol cycle!! Does anyone use both?

[Velocifero Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Velocifero]

I would wait a while before using steroids, if you haven't gained that much in two years, diet sounds like the bigger culprit here. Would you mind posting your daily diet and workout routine?

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I've searched for the D-Bol thread and it doesn't have much info (only 4 posts) but on steroid description thread it says you should maybe take Nolvadex or something like that on a D-Bol cycle!! Does anyone use both?

My Bad BlueG this site usually is chuck-full of info. Give it time u will have plenty of good advice soon.

[stumpy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close stumpy]

http://juicedmuscle.com/showthread.p...rostenolone%29
Dianabol / D-bol (Methandrostenolone)

Dianabol, or D-bol, is a strong steroid compound capable of producing large gains in muscle mass. It is also one of the oldest steroid compounds created, and despite the years of improvement in steroid technology, D-bol is still commonly used. Side effects from D-bol use are moderate, although it is toxic to the liver and high doses are not recommended. Dianabol is often used by body builders and athletes to kick start muscle gains or as a bridge between cycles of other drugs in order to maintain gains.

Dianabol is the old Ciba brand name for the oral steroid methandrostenolone. It is a derivative of testosterone, exhibiting strong anabolic and moderate androgenic properties. This compound was first made available in 1960, and it quickly became the most favored and widely used anabolic steroid in all forms of athletics. This is likely due to the fact that it is both easy to use and extremely effective. In the U.S. Dianabol production had meteoric history, exploding for quite some time, then quickly dropping out of sight. Many were nervous in the late 80’s when the last of the U.S. generics were removed from pharmacy shelves, the medical community finding no legitimate use for the drug anymore. But the fact that Dianabol has been off the U.S. market for over 10 years now has not cut its popularity. It remains the most commonly used black market oral steroid in the U.S. As long as there are countries manufacturing this steroid, it will probably remain so.

Similar to testosterone and Anadrol 50, Dianabol is a potent steroid, but also one which brings about noticeable side effects. For starters methandrostenolone is quite estrogenic. Gynecomastia is often a concern during treatment, and may present itself quite early into a cycle (particularly when higher doses are used). At the same time water retention can become a pronounced problem, causing a notable loss of muscle definition as both subcutaneous water and fat build. Sensitive individuals may therefore want to keep the estrogen under control with the addition of an anti-estrogen such as Nolvadex and/or Proviron. The stronger drugs Arimidex, Femara, or Aromasin (antiaromatase) would be a better choice if available.

In addition, androgenic side effects are common with this substance, and may include bouts of oily skin, acne and body/facial hair growth. Aggression may also be increased with a potent steroid such as this, so it would be wise not to let your disposition change for the worse during a cycle. With Dianabol there is also the possibility of aggravating a male pattern baldness condition. Sensitive individuals may therefore wish to avoid this drug and opt for a milder anabolic such as Deca-Durabolin. While Dianabol does convert to a more potent steroid via interaction with the 5-alpha reductase anzyme (the same enzyme responsible for converting testosterone to dihydrotestosterone), it has extremely little affinity to do so in the human body’s. The androgenic metabolite 5alpha dihydromethandrostenolone is therefore produced only in trace amounts at best. Therefore the use of Proscar/Propecia would serve no real purpose.

Being moderately androgenic, Dianabol is really only a popular steroid with men. When used by women, strong virilization symptoms are of course a possible result. Some do however experiment with it, and find low doses (5mg) of this steroid extremely powerful for new muscle growth. Whenever taken, Dianabol will produce exceptional mass and strength gains. It’s effectiveness is often compared to other strong steroids like testosterone and Anadrol 50, and it is likewise a popular choice for bulking purposes. A daily dosage of 20-40mg is enough to give almost anybody dramatic results. Some do venture much higher in dosage, but this practice usually leads to a more profound incidence of side effects. It additionally combines well with a number of other steroids. It is noted to mix particularly well with the mild anabolic Deca-Durabolin. Together one can expect an exceptional muscle and strength gains, with side effects not much worse than one would expect from Dianabol alone. For all out mass, a long acting testosterone ester like enanthate can be used. With the similarly high estrogenic/androgenic properties of this androgen, side effects may be extreme with such a combination however. Gains would be great as well, which usually makes such an endeavor worthwhile to the user. As discussed earlier, ancillary drugs can be added to reduce the side effects associated with this kind of cycle.

In order to withstand oral administration, this compound is c17 alpha alkylated. We know that this alteration protects the drug from being deactivation by the liver (allowing nearly all of the drug entry into the bloodstream), however it can also be toxic to this organ. Prolonged exposure to c17 alpha alkylated substances can result in actual damage, possibly even the development of certain kinds of cancer. To be safe one might want to visit the doctor a couple of times during each cycle to keep an eye on their liver enzyme values. Cycles should also be kept short, usually less than 8 weeks long to avoid doing any noticeable damage. Jaundice (bile duct obstruction) is usually the first visible sign of liver trouble, and should be looked out for. This condition produces an unusual yellowing of the skin, as the body has trouble processing bilirubin. In addition to the skin, the whites of the eyes may also yellow, a clear indicator of trouble. Should this occur the drug should be discontinued immediately and a doctor visited. This is usually a point where further, permanent damage can be avoided.

It is also interesting to note that methandrostenolone is structurally identical to boldenone (EQ), except that it contains the added c17 alpha alkyl group discussed above. This fact makes clear the impact of altering a steroid in such a way, as these two compounds appear to act very differently in the body. The main dissimilarity seems to lie in the tendency for estrogenic side effects, which seems to be much more pronounced with Dianabol. Equipoise is known to be quite mild in this way, and users therefore commonly take this drug without any need of an anti-estrogen. Dianabol is much more estrogenic not because it is more easily aromatized, as in fact the 17 alpha methyl group and c1-2 double bond both slow the process of aromatization. The problem is that methandrostenolone converts to l7alpha methylestradiol, a more biologically active form of estrogen than regular estradiol. But Dianabol also appears to be much more potent in terms of muscle mass compared to boldenone, supporting the notion that estrogen does play an important role in anabolism. In fact boldenone and methandrostenolone differ so much in their potencies as anabolics that the two are rarely though of as related. As a result, the use of Dianabol is typically restricted to bulking phases of training while Equipoise is considered an excellent cutting or lean-mass building steroid.

The half-life of Dianabol is only about 3 to 4 hours, a relatively short time. This means that a single daily dosage schedule will produce a varying blood level, with ups and downs throughout the day. The user likewise has a choice, to either split up the tablets during the day or to take them all at one time. The usual recommendation has been to divide them and try to regulate the concentration in your blood. This however, will produce a lower peak blood level than if the tablets were taken all at once, so there may be a trade off with this option. The steroid researcher Bill Roberts also points out that a single-episode dosing schedule should have a less dramatic impact on the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis, as there is a sufficient period each day where steroid hormone levels are not extremely exaggerated. I tend to doubt hormonal stability can be maintained during such a cycle however, but do notice that anecdotal evidence often still supports single daily doses to be better for overall results. Perhaps this is the better option. Since we know the blood concentration will peak about 1.5 to 3 hours after administration, we may further wonder the best time to take our tablets. It seems logical that taking the pills earlier in the day, preferably some time before training, would be optimal. This would allow a considerable number of daytime hours for an androgen rich metabolism to heighten the uptake of nutrients, especially the critical hours following training.

Dbol Facts
[17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-1,4-androstadien-3-one]
Molecular Weight: 300.44
Formula: C20H28O2
Melting Point: N/A
Manufacturer: Ciba (originally)
Release Date: 1956
Effective dose: 25-50mgs (as low as 10 and as high as 100 have been reported)
Active Life: 6-8hours
Detection Time: up to 6 weeks
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 90-210:40-60

[BlueG Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BlueG]

Thanks for the help guys..

My usual diet would be..
Breakfast: protein shake with 3 scoops of oats and a bowl of frosties lol.

Few hours later on my break at work I'll have couple of sandwiches (normally something like ham) 3 boiled egg whites

Dinner: tin of beans, scrambled eggs and toast

Pre work out: protein shake
Post work out: recover drink

Main meal: anything chicken based i.e seasoned chicken breast and vegetables with potatoes or something similar!!

Late evening: protein shake

I do have lazy days sometimes but I try my hardest to eat like this!!

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I try to eat every 2-3 hours. Sleep well and exercise hard. I go for chicken veggies (green beans asparagus broccoli Brussels sprouts and the usual) pasta daily usually with broccoli added and fish; haddock or cod or any white fish I can get my greedy paws on, with some kind of sauce usually cheese sauce. Red meat like steak, not every night but I try for 3 nights a week. snacks I have cottage cheese brown crackers, also peanut butter sandwiches for snacks. Fruits i eat a lot of bananas and pears. not a huge apple fan or orange fan, too acidic for me. I also throw in 3 shakes per day 3 scoups in every shake. If I'm busy I will cook foods in advance or failing that I will use the odd energy bar. breakfast is weetabix and egg whites. again I cook these in advance so I don't have to get up at 3am to begin my day. Some will do things differently, but I tend to never go more than 3 hours with out eating something. To begin with you will feel bloated but your gut will stretch. You don't have to eat huge portions either, well I don't, but I'm smaller than most the guys here. Also you must be UK if your using stones as your weight measure? I don't drink fizzy juice or eat shit like greasy kebabs or pizzas, I am partial to a once a month chicken curry But for the most part I eat quite well, it is important to get diet dialled in before trying steroids.

Also try not to have lazy days on food, you're starving your body by doing that, which will affect gains. get into a habit or preparing bulk then its less hassle.

This is not a strict diet ^ I eat other foods, it's just a rough piece of information that I'm typing in-between mouthfuls



second edit: Also what the other guys said, do not rush into steroids if you do not know what your doing, take your time get your diet and routine right, also information is vast on the internet so google like a mofo to find out what you need to know.

[stumpy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close stumpy]

^^ good diet.






Thought you'd be eating Quaker oats for breakfast! lol

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^^ good diet.







Thought you'd be eating Quaker oats for breakfast! lol

^ This must be why I was bullied at school everyone knows real men eat Quaker Oats

I can't stand oats like that or porridge, I'm an oddball, yet I can eat wheetabix which tastes similar. Idk I think I'm wrong in the head or my parents didn't give me enough variety as a child.

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I got the wrong brand, shouldda been Scotts oats lol. TBH porridge is pretty rank on its' own, I usualy add some honey to it.
Not wanting to stray of topic but I live in Spain and you'd be amazed how many Spanish go to Scotland, apparently they like the weather!

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I got the wrong brand, shouldda been Scotts oats lol. TBH porridge is pretty rank on its' own, I usualy add some honey to it.
Not wanting to stray of topic but I live in Spain and you'd be amazed how many Spanish go to Scotland, apparently they like the weather!

Hahahahahahahah, Like the weather? You guys must be more messed up in the head than I am. We have 3 kinds of weather here, Snow, rain, wind. then Rain, wind, snow. Then Wind, snow, rain. Its fantastic how you get all that in 1 day.

You ain't a man unless you wear a kilt, throw a shot put and eat oats.

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If you are new to use steroid then i would suggest to consult to an expert who would help you to select dosage for you..
Using steroid with guidance and with precautions is not harmful indeed.